[HomeGuardPaints]

This is a spin off of my other post

Its the time of year again to really ramp up the interveiw process and get painters back on ladders. So what is everyones criteria for hiring. I have always done a interview at my office and then take then to a small project and see what they have. I found that guys sure can talk when in the chair but when it come down to it few can paint, so that has been a good.. errr ok way to qualify employees.

what is everyone else's stategy?

 

[Housepainter]

someone posted they have several doors of various styles in the shop they let them paint. Panels and louvered should be a good test...

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

thats a good idea

 

[Kelly Painting]

Just give them a door....and see if they paint it right....then have a ladder
and make them cut.

 

[Joewho]

have them do more than that. It stinks to hire a painter just to find out that he refuses to work off ladderjacks or wets himself on an extension ladder.

 

[Kelly Painting]

Good advice..... today my guy (team leader) was sent to prime a small room that we sheetrocked last week....when I showed up he said the primer had
little cruds in it and he just painted anyways...the walls and ceiling look like sh*t...lots of little specs everywhere. I was working down the street, he could have called me and I would have strained it for him...or he could have
taken the initiative and strained it himself. Now I got to sand and re-prime.

 

[Housepainter]

I know that painting is a different business, but, my dad had an automotive shop for over 25 years. Had 3 of five mechanics for most of those years. When they worked on a car and did it wrong.. their whoops...they re-did the work over...at the base rate... "minimum wage" While they were paid at prime rate based when they were doing a job. Usually at about $15.00 per hour. He had few mistakes because of attitude or ignorance...

Maybe you guys with crews need to think about that type strategy...
Letting them work at minimum wage rather that whatever your production rate is... Might make them think about what they are..or are not doing...

Manufacturing plants also do this.... When you are on a machine running "happyfaces" you make higher dollars.... When you are doing repairs of the happyfaces you make your base or minimum...

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

Good advice..... today my guy (team leader) was sent to prime a small room that we sheetrocked last week....when I showed up he said the primer had
little cruds in it and he just painted anyways...the walls and ceiling look like sh*t...lots of little specs everywhere. I was working down the street, he could have called me and I would have strained it for him...or he could have
taken the initiative and strained it himself. Now I got to sand and re-prime.

Thats the sh that drives me crazy. How can some people be that dumb?

have them do more than that. It stinks to hire a painter just to find out that he refuses to work off ladderjacks or wets himself on an extension ladder.

oh yeah and you have to love the "painters" who only want low work.

 

[paulingrad]

This is a spin off of my other post

Its the time of year again to really ramp up the interveiw process and get painters back on ladders. So what is everyones criteria for hiring. I have always done a interview at my office and then take then to a small project and see what they have. I found that guys sure can talk when in the chair but when it come down to it few can paint, so that has been a good.. errr ok way to qualify employees.

what is everyone else's stategy?

If you need painters put a card on the board in your local paint supplier. Tell him it's only a temporary position, so if he sucks, you can give him the bullet. Finally, never employ anyone over 5.2". Just in case you have to deck them.

paul

 

[bikerboy]

Finally, never employ anyone over 5.2". Just in case you have to deck them.

paul

True Story:

One of the baddest guys I knew was a "little guy". He had eight brothers and was next to the youngest and wore glasses. Just one of those average unexpected, blend into the crowd types.
BUT..... When he asked somebody to hold his glasses. A can of Whoopa$$ was about to be opened. Saw it several times when I was younger. Never ceases to amaze me.:nerd:

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

If you need painters put a card on the board in your local paint supplier. Tell him it's only a temporary position, so if he sucks, you can give him the bullet. Finally, never employ anyone over 5.2". Just in case you have to deck them.

paul

good advice:thumbup:

 

[ROSETHORN]

have them do more than that. It stinks to hire a painter just to find out that he refuses to work off ladderjacks or wets himself on an extension ladder.

hey im seeking employment just moved to gautier ms. have 15 years experience own spray rig etc. not afraid of heights have references was working for a builder and remodeler in clinton ms. hit me [email protected] aint skeered:whistling2:

 

[ROSETHORN]

Good advice..... today my guy (team leader) was sent to prime a small room that we sheetrocked last week....when I showed up he said the primer had
little cruds in it and he just painted anyways...the walls and ceiling look like sh*t...lots of little specs everywhere. I was working down the street, he could have called me and I would have strained it for him...or he could have
taken the initiative and strained it himself. Now I got to sand and re-prime.

hey i just moved to the area and have 15 years experience and i spray have own rig and references.:thumbsup:

 

[aaron61]

Good advice..... today my guy (team leader) was sent to prime a small room that we sheetrocked last week....when I showed up he said the primer had
little cruds in it and he just painted anyways...the walls and ceiling look like sh*t...lots of little specs everywhere. I was working down the street, he could have called me and I would have strained it for him...or he could have
taken the initiative and strained it himself. Now I got to sand and re-prime.

This should not be your team leader.He obviously isn't a leader or this wouldn't even be in discussion. That's 1st year painter stuff right there.

 

[Lee Decorating Corp.]

I make all fill out and mail back a four page application. The purpose is to see if they can follow simple directions, willing to tell whom they worked for and what they were paid. It is amazing how many guys claim to make $400plus/day. I do not charge that per day including paint. I also use this to weed out the firemen and business owners that just want work to tide them over. I am not here to help them.
If they can follow the instructions and everything checks out, then I call them in for an interview. If they are late, they are out. If they repeat everything I have on my website telling me what I want to hear, they are out. If they are loud or looking for cash? Out.
I show them my rules and ask if they have any problems before we go any further. if not, I do the same with a safety manuel. Last time 2 out of 60 applicants passed this part. Then I try them on an experienced crew and it is up to my crew leader to say if he is worth it.
It is amazing how many will not send back the application, not fill it in, call me on the phone or just show up for an interview. All will be disqualified. If you want a good employee, make them jump through hoops. It is your reputation after all.

 

[Lee Decorating Corp.]

This should not be your team leader.He obviously isn't a leader or this wouldn't even be in discussion. That's 1st year painter stuff right there.

he should be given a few days off to think about what he did wrong aand wasted your time and material.

 

[aaron61]

I know that painting is a different business, but, my dad had an automotive shop for over 25 years. Had 3 of five mechanics for most of those years. When they worked on a car and did it wrong.. their whoops...they re-did the work over...at the base rate... "minimum wage" While they were paid at prime rate based when they were doing a job. Usually at about $15.00 per hour. He had few mistakes because of attitude or ignorance...

Maybe you guys with crews need to think about that type strategy...
Letting them work at minimum wage rather that whatever your production rate is... Might make them think about what they are..or are not doing...

Manufacturing plants also do this.... When you are on a machine running "happyfaces" you make higher dollars.... When you are doing repairs of the happyfaces you make your base or minimum...

This would never work. You do this to a man & whether you know it or not,he gets his money back. You can make a few mistakes and I will absorb it but if it's obvious you are a hindrance to production you gotta go.

 

[vermontpainter]

This thread is four years old and stuff.

 

[George Z]

Never hire anyone for their painting skills (they should have some for the position you are hiring)
Hire the person.
Make sure you like that person pefore they go on the field.
In our case, if the employee doesn't "belong" the guys will make this clear.
It would never work.

4 years old? We are older and wiser now?

 

[NEPS.US]

And Kelly was in MA, not MS.