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If you apply 2 that may be specified in your contract and you see it need a 3rd coat. Are you charging or are you taking the hit?
 

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I usually spec two. But at the time of the estimate I always ask the HO what colors they think they might be going with. I explain that it helps me spec the correct number of coats to get proper coverage and thereby avoid any problems during production of the job.

I'm not in the buisness of painting a room 3-4 extra times without compensation, although I've done it plenty. I believe that proper comunication before the bid is submitted can take care of most of these problems. :thumbsup:
 

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Your the guy estimating the correct time, method and product to complete the job. If it's your contract then the ultimate responsibility belongs to you.
If i know the color before the bid is submitted, and I didn't spec the correct number of coats to get proper coverage, I take the hit.

If at the time of the estimate they tell me its just going to be another coat of white, and then they throw a fire engine red at me.... Change order.
 

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Your the guy estimating the correct time, method and product to complete the job. If it's your contract then the ultimate responsibility belongs to you.
That doesn't answer the question. If the contract reads 2 coat. You perform the work of 2 coats. You can see it needs a 3rd coat. Who is responsible, the contractor or the client?
 

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I spec interior repaints for 2 coats if it is a color change (99% of the time). I usually ask what colors they are thinking and if it is a potential problem color I either warn them about the possibility of a 3rd coat and extra costs or suggest Aura. Usually, at the estimate stage they do not have the colors decided yet.
 

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That doesn't answer the question. If the contract reads 2 coat. You perform the work of 2 coats. You can see it needs a 3rd coat. Who is responsible, the contractor or the client?
If you gave an estimate(created the contract) to the spec'ed amount of coats and agreed to a price and a expectation of how the product would cover given the quoted amount of coats and product then you are responsible.
 

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That doesn't answer the question. If the contract reads 2 coat. You perform the work of 2 coats. You can see it needs a 3rd coat. Who is responsible, the contractor or the client?
See post #9. Thats how I try to handle it. But then again not everything is black and white. I regularly put an additional coat here and there. It all depends.....
 

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Thanks! That's what I wanted to hear. As a professional painter, I believe the client is depending on the professional to give an accurate estimate to complete the job of a professional appearance. My contract states
A full coverage a minimum of 2 coats.

Its our job too give the prospect a accurate estimate.
 

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It really come down to the type of communication you had when doing the walk through. For me, I would say at least 70% have no clue what the colors are going to be at the time of the estimate. So In this case I will give a price for two coats, if it takes more then it's their dime, not mine.

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It really come down to the type of communication you had when doing the walk through. For me, I would say at least 70% have no clue what the colors are going to be at the time of the estimate. So In this case I will give a price for two coats, if it takes more then it's their dime, not mine.

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Yes I remove the full coverage if they haven't decided on a color. But it's more rare that the prospect doesn't have an idea. I'm not into giving a blind estimate either. It all in the communication though and it the contractors responsibility to communicate the proper procedures.
 

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Yes I remove the full coverage if they haven't decided on a color. But it's more rare that the prospect doesn't have an idea. I'm not into giving a blind estimate either. It all in the communication though and it the contractors responsibility to communicate the proper procedures.
Oh they have a general idea, but when it comes time to put the paint on, its never close to what they were thinking at the beginning. I learned this from experience. So if they are not showing me color chips at the time of the estimate, then I just assume they have no clue yet.

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