Been a few years since I used oil Impervo. Forgot how nice it works (w/Penetrol).
Painted some built-ins that were hacked w/latex. Sanded the hell out of them and got rid of all the fat edges. Applied a split-coat of BM oil primer and Impervo followed by a full coat of Impervo.
They came out sweet! Look like they were sprayed.
It's been a while since I made a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
It adds body for build up and as a bonus it helps it get going towards the finish color. This is real common and a traditional way of using this product.
Be careful about how much penetrol you use for thinning with light colors.
Yeah, quality product. I know a lot of people dont agree but you can't beat an oil finish for trim. Just looks, feels better and stands up to test of time.
I haven't used Impervo since they changed the formula 7 or 8 years ago. I absolutely LOVED the stuff. I've never seen anything lay out like it did since. Good to hear it still produces a quality finished product.
We always used a splash of spirits into the Impervo. We used the low odor stuff so were not introducing more voc in the air than normal. Any benefits of the penetrol over the spirits as a thinner?
Isn't Penetrol designed to not break down the ingredients of the paint as oppose to spirits or naptha?
I love the finish of oil....I personally will miss it.
Whatever are we going to do on cabinetry?
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VD - Have you tried the new advance yet? i think it works just as well as good old impervo if not better, cuz here (at least in IL) they have messed with old impervo to get it closer to the voc laws and I think it changed for the worst. The new advance is nice and thins with water believe it or not.
That's funny you mention that. I was just in BM yesterday and was chatting with the owner for 1/2 hour or so. I only use BM when it's specified on a job which is once every few years, so I don't know a lot about their products.
As we were discussing some of the products, he told me that one product he WON'T sell is the Advance. What he told me, is that when they were product testing before release, Advance worked awesome, but when they officially released it, something had changed with the formula. I guess after numerous contractor complaints about it running and sagging, they won't sell it any longer.
Don't shoot the messenger.....this is just what I was told. Never tried Advance myself.
I like these new hybrid paints in very small areas like molding but where it comes larger areas like doors I find they dry too fast to work them easy. Base/door trim it's great though.
question here for you guys (actually wish Retired would pop up for this one),
Background: I did a cabinet door sample with SW waterborne Alkyd, and I changed it up to a proclassic latex topcoat, because I am faux finishing the cabinetry.
Here is the question: I want to use up this gallon of limey green colored waterborne alkyd (color stays the same) and wanted to throw it into a split coat with some primer. What primer should I be using? Would it work? My assumption is an oil based primer would work, but I dont feel like wasting any primer in the pursuit of using up materials. If it did work, would using this as a spli coat kill adhesion for latex bond?
I for one would never do a split coat cause if anything ever goes down and the SW rep wants a sample you will be toast. I am not a chemist nor do I play one one TV, so I would leave those things to the chem department.
not really planning on doing it, (but I might) but someone is gonna try sooner than later. were entering new territory with hybrid paints. Obviously, no rep is gonna back this kind of move, ever, but doesn't mean it wouldnt be worth trying. My major issue is still, A) will waterborne oil blend with alkyd and B) will there be an adhesion issue with latex as a top coat.
I'm never going to use this gallon up, so I think I will try on a scrap door after I'm done priming with oil tomorrow.
Bottom line is I'm never gonna know until I try...
I mix stuff all the time, usually to great benifit. But for example I mixed Smart Prime ( a hybrid h2o oil) , and a reg primer and it went real weird , real fast.
We sell Adavnce (and are set up for GenX), but painters either hate it or love it. In the NW, theres been alot of problems with the paint sagging on vertical surfaces. We've given out some quarts for guys to test, and the majority dont like it. Now when we got the prototype and made sample boards, it worked beautifully, so it could be a batch or regional issue. And it still has advantages, such as sticking to oil, so its still has its place, but we dont usually push it over Impervo, at least for now.
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