[PinnacleResidential]

While business has still been coming in all season, it seems that people are starting to move towards painting a single room or just a couple of rooms rather than their entire interior. Smaller projects seem to be rolling in while the large 15 and 20k jobs are getting fewer and fewer. Anyone else experiencing this?

I got to thinking today and can't help but think this is helping more than hurting. More clients throughout the season means more repeat business. I also have always felt that in the long run, a one day in and out type of job is more profitable than a month long endeavor. Furthermore, a one bedroom repaint takes about 4 hours. I try to schedule two of these jobs on the same day. I am charging for a days labor on both projects and therefore, making two days labor rates for a long days work.

Anyone else feel this way?

 

[ProWallGuy]

:no:

 

[vermontpainter]

Not to speak for anyone but myself, but if you have been at this for 10-15 years, you kind of start to anticipate and adapt a bit sooner.

To answer the OP question: Not so much...

 

[plainpainter]

you can't paint a bedroom in 4 hours! We must have different types of clocks.

 

[vermontpainter]

you can't paint a bedroom in 4 hours! We must have different types of clocks.

Plain

he has a bunch of guys who do like a 1/4 of a million a month in garage doors only...put them in a room and they are like sharks smelling blood. "Anything but garage doors, pleaaaaaassssee!!!"

 

[DeanV]

A walls only repaint in a typical bedroom is 4 hours for two coats on the walls, no problem assuming there are only a few minor nicks, gouges, and nail holes to fill. Shoot, if dry times are good and you do stuff in the right order, you can even fit in the ceiling on a good day (but that can be tough). Must be MI time.

 

[NEPS.US]

It's like driving by an accident or looking at the sun. Why the hell to I open Severson or Pinnacle threads?

 

[DeanV]

Pinnacle, I think charging for a one day minimum on a job like that is fine. I have considered doing the same. For me, I have usually been able to fit them in well with another job nearby or something so it is not a huge problem, but if I was getting a lot of one room jobs, the one day price would be a good idea.

 

[MAK-Deco]

We do the same if we can't squeeze the small room job in, it gets quoted as a full day.

 

[Mantis]

Billed as full day. Yes.

 

[PinnacleResidential]

You guys even get upset when I tell you how long a bedroom takes me? Come on, two guys, overhead fan running and one of our fans to help dry time - me and 1 guy start cutting 3/4 of the way through the first cut I pull out big ben to roll the walls. Take a smoke break and repeat. Four hours - no problem.

My question wasn't regarding time to paint a room. My question was if any of you guys are experiencing the same thing - smaller jobs?

 

[ProWallGuy]

I see no problem with 4 hours to paint a bedroom. From the time you pull up at the curb, move furniture, throw down drops, pull switchplate/outlet covers, pull window treatments, retrieve tools, pour up paint, actually paint the room, and reverse the above steps, 4 hours is very acceptable. It really doesn't matter how long it takes for someone to do something, as long as they are billing/getting paid for all the time.

I am seeing smaller jobs because I actively seek them out. They seem to hold a higher profit margin for me.

 

[MAK-Deco]

I don't have a problem with 4 hrs for a bedroom, depending on the size and how much patching and using Aura I can see it... as for the smoke break, not allow around my jobsite.... too much time wasted on the smoke breaks

 

[MAK-Deco]

Hey PWG we must of been typing at the same time!

 

[ProWallGuy]

Hey PWG we must of been typing at the same time!

Yep, same time stamp, but it appears I got top billing! :jester:

 

[MAK-Deco]

Yep, same time stamp, but it appears I got top billing! :jester:

you damn moderators...

 

[peoplearemorons]

its all about GW screwing up the economy nobody has any money to get stuff done....in most cases painting is pretty low on the totem pole as things that need to get done... try picking up side work installing new windows its a energy saver in the long run and thats mainly what people want done these days..even then though people cant really afford that so u wind up doing 2-3 windows a project ..just a thought SCREW BIG OIL RIDE A BIKE lol

 

[premierpainter]

Pinn you bill two guys a full day- $300 each $600 total to paint walls only? Doubt it. You never mentioned trim or ceiling in your thread.

 

[PinnacleResidential]

Never mentioned it because I'm not counting trim and ceiling. If I was, I would have mentioned it. As far as what you doubt, who cares? You're running out of New Jersey. How could you possibly know what I am billing - different markets, different price points.

 

[bikerboy]

You guys even get upset when I tell you how long a bedroom takes me? Come on, two guys, overhead fan running and one of our fans to help dry time - me and 1 guy start cutting 3/4 of the way through the first cut I pull out big ben to roll the walls. Take a smoke break and repeat. Four hours - no problem.

My question wasn't regarding time to paint a room. My question was if any of you guys are experiencing the same thing - smaller jobs?

You guys missed it! He uses an 18 inch roller. (big ben) I tell ya they are the bomb! Twice the area in one swipe!