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I was just wondering when any of you started your business did you also work a full time job until you built your customer base and word of mouth?

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Thanks, Brian
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Yes. Bought most of my equipment at that time also.

But, I will explain it this way: I didn't really ever start out wanting to be a business owner. It just happened that the two losers I was working for at the time didn't spend anything on decent equipment. When I found myself hanging paper in a 2-story foyer off of a Type III duty 20' aluminum extension ladder, I said screw this. I went out the next day and bought myself a Type IA fiberglass extension, just so I could be safe at work. Soon, I bought another, and so on and so on. Within a year or so, I was fed up with their crappy work ethics, and unrealistic low pricing, and realized that I was better equipped to be a company than they were. I had been doing sidejobs for a couple years already, so I had a few decent customers in my pocket. My coke head boss (the other was drunk) was notorious for being production minded. Forget quality, just get it done as fast as you can. He showed up at a job where I was to hang a small powder room. I had just primed the walls, and was setting up my table to cut up pieces. He shows up, sees what I'm doing, and flips out. He screams at me that we don't have time to wait for this 5hit to dry, just hang it. And proceeds to grab paper towels out of the kitchen, and attempts to wipe off the primer. I quietly just tore down my table, packed up my tools, and left. Never looked back. 4 of their 7 remaining hangers were working for me in about 6-9 months. But, it took me over 10 years past that point to begin to run it like a true business, instead of a guy who owned his own job.

Sorry for the long winded answer, but there you go.
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I ran a temp. employee service out of Pittsburgh Pa. 7 days a week working very long hours on a salary pay. We would service waste management with trash tossers and that made me open the office at 4am to get workers out. We had accounts all throughout the day ending my work day at 6pm. We also serviced Heinz Field and PNC park with clean up crews after games keeping me in the office until late games were over.(never mind rain delays for the pirates and snow days for the steelers). Working 60 to 70 hour work weeks and being treated like **** from our corp. office in Cleaveland, I decided I needed to do something for myself. With a history of painting i decided to go into business. Got the word out and never looked back. All my work comes from word of mouth and the sign on my van.
Thanks for the response guys. I believe I am on the correct path. I started business in 2006, worked that year full time, than hit the end of year and business stopped. My plan was always to work full time job till business picks up, I have good word of mouth started several jobs completed and customers satisfied.
Thanks again, Brian
I started out in new construction, keept my day job as a painter for a small paint co until I got my first contract with a builder and took off from there, rented most all equipment for the first 6 mo's and bought more at the end of each finished house.;)
Ben
Yes. Bought most of my equipment at that time also.

But, I will explain it this way: I didn't really ever start out wanting to be a business owner. It just happened that the two losers I was working for at the time didn't spend anything on decent equipment. When I found myself hanging paper in a 2-story foyer off of a Type III duty 20' aluminum extension ladder, I said screw this. I went out the next day and bought myself a Type IA fiberglass extension, just so I could be safe at work. Soon, I bought another, and so on and so on. Within a year or so, I was fed up with their crappy work ethics, and unrealistic low pricing, and realized that I was better equipped to be a company than they were. I had been doing sidejobs for a couple years already, so I had a few decent customers in my pocket. My coke head boss (the other was drunk) was notorious for being production minded. Forget quality, just get it done as fast as you can. He showed up at a job where I was to hang a small powder room. I had just primed the walls, and was setting up my table to cut up pieces. He shows up, sees what I'm doing, and flips out. He screams at me that we don't have time to wait for this 5hit to dry, just hang it. And proceeds to grab paper towels out of the kitchen, and attempts to wipe off the primer. I quietly just tore down my table, packed up my tools, and left. Never looked back. 4 of their 7 remaining hangers were working for me in about 6-9 months. But, it took me over 10 years past that point to begin to run it like a true business, instead of a guy who owned his own job.

Sorry for the long winded answer, but there you go.










Did you work in Greensboro?haha This is exactly why I quit the working for the guy I've been with for the last year and a half
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Started everything with a Home Depot credit card..$5000 limit. Still paying it off.
Thanks for the response guys. I believe I am on the correct path. I started business in 2006, worked that year full time, than hit the end of year and business stopped. My plan was always to work full time job till business picks up, I have good word of mouth started several jobs completed and customers satisfied.
Thanks again, Brian
How much do you spend on advertising? Leads are the lifeblood of your business. If you are working a full time job, I would plow most of my painting profits into marketing/advertising. (and tools)
A Simple Man With No Plan

My story is simple. Went to work for a friend and his wife after being fired from a traveling electrical contractor. Bad time that turned into a blessing. Worked for him for many years and eventually inherited his contacts and equipment for a nominal fee. No buisness plan then and no plan now although I could probably benefit from one.
Bartended 6 nights a week from 4:30 - 1:30. Painted everything and anything during the day. Signs, printing presses, boats, RV's,...like I said everything and anything. Took every cent from those jobs to buy equipment and get my business started. I figured if I did it that way instead of taking money that I had saved over the years, I would prove to myself how serious I was about succeeding.

The only regret I have is that there was no PaintTalk Forum back then. There is a wealth of information to be had here....and a good dose of b.s. on occasion. I'm not quite sure why some of the guys starting out want to be so arguementive, maybe it's the generation, but when you have the experienced guys here sharing what they know, it seems foolish not to at least be openminded enough to take their suggestions into consideration. You cant learn all of this out of a book.

26 years of painting and a few less than that owning my own business, and I still read every "advice/suggestion" here to see if or how I could possibly use it to my advantage if applicable.:yes:
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My situation is a little different than most here. I work a full time job still, but I only work 3 out of every 9 days so it affords me the time to have a painting business also. It has made me approach the business differently. I have to have guys I can trust to do things right when I cant be there. The last few years have become easier as I've taken a bit more hands off approach, I guess do to the fact that I have those guys now. I still pick up a brush when I can, just don't always have to and can consentrate more on getting business. It's like BB said, I pour more time and profit into the business to keep my guys busy.
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