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Thanks. My pockets aren't deep enough for a boat load of labor then waiting 30 to 90 days for payment
I am gonna have to use profits from other residential jobs to cover the labor. Eventually, I'd like to have a full time commercial crew, full time residential crew, and full time apartment crew.
I'm not blowing my own horn, but I overheard the GC telling another guy (after we started) that "It sure is f*ckin' nice to have painters that actually know what they are doing". Gotta admit, my chest got a lil puffy after that comment.:yes:
I am gonna have to use profits from other residential jobs to cover the labor. Eventually, I'd like to have a full time commercial crew, full time residential crew, and full time apartment crew.
I'm not blowing my own horn, but I overheard the GC telling another guy (after we started) that "It sure is f*ckin' nice to have painters that actually know what they are doing". Gotta admit, my chest got a lil puffy after that comment.:yes:
Apparently - I missed that article. 'Cause I wasn't sure what you were talkin about.
BTW, I totally underestimated this job. Off on materials by about 50% and off on labor by ~30%. I am basically doing this at cost. No wonder - I won the bid.
I'll chalk it up as a lesson learned and try to do better next time. It's been a great learning experience so far.
BTW, I totally underestimated this job. Off on materials by about 50% and off on labor by ~30%. I am basically doing this at cost
. No wonder - I won the bid.I'll chalk it up as a lesson learned and try to do better next time. It's been a great learning experience so far.
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I just completed a job about that size w/o shooting the deck (thankfully), props on covering the lifts, I try my best to keep the "cleaning fee" out of my expenses.
Sounds like you are a good fit for the type of painter they seek, get ready to travel!
Sounds like you are a good fit for the type of painter they seek, get ready to travel!
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I ask myself that question as I breath in to deliver my price on every contract.
The fine line between making "just enough" and making "a lot" is getting finer everyday...
I wish there were such a thing as "decent" in this industry.
BB - Thanks. I talked to the GC this evening and asked him if we were taking care of him. He said we are doing a great job - but we ran out of paint today- he was shocked we got as much done as we did. Again, this falls on me - 10 5'rs of dryfall only covered half of what I estimated. Obviously, they've been dealing with some sub-par performers. I am hoping his lack of headaches will justify my higher price on future projects.
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Sweet deal! How much paint did that lid take?
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What did you learn?What dryfall product are you using? I learned the hard way on material/clean-up estimating on dryfall ceilings my first year running the business on a 60,000 sf Cub Foods
Yes - please share. I learned to double down, basically, on all areas to be painted. I learned GC's love to not have to worry about somethings (painting for example). In other words, demonstrate you are there to please, back it up, knock it out - ALL is good.:thumbsup:
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bout the nastiest thing there is to coat. Red lead in a tank would be way worse.. but this is right up there..
water clarifiers are the "poop" tanks that process the waste at water treatment plants. The inner "scrap arm" must be coated with coal tar epoxy to withstand the acids in the water.. AND being submerged in the water. It goes on to a certain mil thickness.. can't remember what it is now, but that stuff is NASTY NASTY stuff.. burns the piss outta your skin, cut it with MEK or xylene and has to be pumped through a bulldog spraypump.. which is actually ran off a pull behind compressor. Has a pot life of 20ish minutes in 70deg heat.. *we were in 100+* and full spray suits with full face masks. The blue was epalon epoxy from Sherwin Williams.
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