[JTP]

Just got a pair of these. I know ladder hooks have been discussed before, but I am looking for input on how best to use and secure these puppies. Attaching to ladder is self evident, I'd like input on good ways to secure and use. Thanks all. JTP

 

[JNLP]

Nothing special I can think of? Just attach & hook.

Ohhh I got one. Hook not to a rotted peak. If you're not moving it alot, a saftey line never hurts either. :thumbup:

 

[daArch]

Just got a pair of these. I know ladder hooks have been discussed before, but I am looking for input on how best to use and secure these puppies. Attaching to ladder is self evident, I'd like input on good ways to secure and use. Thanks all. JTP

Not quite sure of the question.

Secure and use? Not to demean your question, but I kinda thought it was obvious.

Here's a pix of a double hook, I use the single one like you bought - fastened to the center of the appropraite rung(s). Although mine does not have the wheel on it. That must make it a lot easier to roll up the roof and then flip over so the hook graps the peak....BUT also presents a danger of being tripped on.

does this help?

If not, I'll take a pair of my old one in use and post it. I'd take a picture now, but it dark and raining outside now.

-Bill

 

[vermontpainter]

DaArch

This is gonna sound real dubm, but the picture you posted shows two hooks in use. I have always only put one up there, no wonder I swing from side to side!

 

[JTP]

Not quite sure of the question.

Secure and use? Not to demean your question, but I kinda thought it was obvious.

Here's a pix of a double hook, I use the single one like you bought - fastened to the center of the appropraite rung(s). Although mine does not have the wheel on it. That must make it a lot easier to roll up the roof and then flip over so the hook graps the peak....BUT also presents a danger of being tripped on.

does this help?

If not, I'll take a pair of my old one in use and post it. I'd take a picture now, but it dark and raining outside now.

-Bill

Bill--I failed to be specific. I am aware of how the hooks work. I am interested in ideas of how to best use a safety strap to prevent slippage. For instance: Would you tie a saftey strap to the rung closest to the roof peak and tie off on opposite side of house? Where do you tie the safety strap off when in use? And of course, any other practical ideas like where or how to best secure a gallon or fiver of paint using this system. I know I can use a pot hook for this, but are there easier and better ways. These are the types of hints I'm looking for.

Additionally: It is strongly suggested two hooks per ladder be used to optimize safety. I do think, however, one hook per ladder will work fine--but as long as I have two, I'll use the two for this purpose. Thanks for your help.

JTP

 

[daArch]

Dubmbmbm ?

nah, I only use one two, ... ah to, ... ah too (GESUNDHEIT !)

As I said in my post, that pix shows a double hook - kinda like what they used on me when I did Vaudville.

Mine's only a single also, like my Scotches ..... although when I have a double and seeing triple, I should be using a double, which at that point would look like a sextuple.

Reminds me of an old painting acquintance, he used to hang from a rope doin' winders, with a five pack on his belt (the sixth plastic ring had the belt running through it). But he was three sheets to the wind by that point.

(all these numbers are confusing me)

-Bill

 

[daArch]

Bill--I failed to be specific. I am aware of how the hooks work. I am interested in ideas of how to best use a safety strap to prevent slippage. For instance: Would you tie a saftey strap to the rung closest to the roof peak and tie off on opposite side of house? Where do you tie the safety strap off when in use? And of course, any other practical ideas like where or how to best secure a gallon or fiver of paint using this system. I know I can use a pot hook for this, but are there easier and better ways. These are the types of hints I'm looking for.

Additionally: It is strongly suggested two hooks per ladder be used to optimize safety. I do think, however, one hook per ladder will work fine--but as long as I have two, I'll use the two for this purpose. Thanks for your help.

JTP

SAFETY STRAPS ???? We don't need no stinkin SAFFETY STRAPS !!!


That's right we now live in the world controlled by the OSHA Nazis. Sorry, I have no experience with straps. My interpretation of OSHA regs is that you do not need fall protection when on a ladder (actually that's not just my interpretation, that's the Boston field office edict handed down to me. MY interpretation is that a hooked ladder on a roof does not require fall protection because one is working off a ladder. (YMMD - call your local OSHA office and ask)

Hooking ANY kind of a bucket to a roof hooked ladder is still a work in progress. When you find a good solution, please share. I would just hang it from the siding somehow. Either from a window, shutter, electrical service, or just drive an 8d into the siding

-Bill

 

[NEPS.US]

JTP ....
Just make sure you keep most of your weight on the roof. Don't solely rely on the hook to hold your weight. Make sure the roofcap in on securely and always check to make sure the wing nut is tight.

 

[JTP]

JTP To the Arch Man and NEPS

Thanks to you both for the hints--especially about the wing nut and six pack hanger.

Seems to me--the easiest way to get paint from the container is: move it up the ladder rung with you-make sure the roof is dropped with canvas--make sure pot hook or tie off is secure before letting it go-make sure the angle of the container is not so steep as to cause an overflow onto the roof

If you have to climb up and down the hooked ladder to slap the bucket, it's not going to allow much production work. I am thinking there must be a better way to bring your material, brush, roller, sprayer--whatever you're using with you at each rung level. Putting a nail in the trim will work for some applications, but for many it is impractical.

More suggestions are always appreciated.

JTP

 

[NEPS.US]

These are great tools....



you can hook these safely through a ladder on a roof with a hook

 

[JTP]

These are great tools....



you can hook these safely through a ladder on a roof with a hook

NEPS--I actually have the site bookmarked on this boots--I will consider buying one or two. Thanks for the reminder on these.

JTP

 

[NEPS.US]

I think SW pro show price was 79.99 ...I have 4 of them ...awsome ..a million uses!

 

[JTP]

http://www.provisiontools.com/

Link for these boots if anyone else is interested. Thanks Chris.

JTP

 

[MAK-Deco]

These are great tools....



you can hook these safely through a ladder on a roof with a hook

We can't live w/o ours!

 

[Joewho]

Thanks to you both for the hints--especially about the wing nut and six pack hanger.

Seems to me--the easiest way to get paint from the container is: move it up the ladder rung with you-make sure the roof is dropped with canvas--make sure pot hook or tie off is secure before letting it go-make sure the angle of the container is not so steep as to cause an overflow onto the roof

If you have to climb up and down the hooked ladder to slap the bucket, it's not going to allow much production work. I am thinking there must be a better way to bring your material, brush, roller, sprayer--whatever you're using with you at each rung level. Putting a nail in the trim will work for some applications, but for many it is impractical.

More suggestions are always appreciated.

JTP

Sometimes I use a wadded up drop to level the bottom of the bucket if the pitch isn't too steep. Otherwise, I may build a platform out of wood or even use roof jacks to get a plank up there and another piece of wood to make it level.

 

[JTP]

Joewho said: Sometimes I use a wadded up drop to level the bottom of the bucket if the pitch isn't too steep. Otherwise, I may build a platform out of wood or even use roof jacks to get a plank up there and another piece of wood to make it level.

Thanks Joe.

JTP

 

[daArch]

I wanted to show a little contraption I built in the 80's. This was for accessing those tall walls above a garage or porch roof when there's no possibility of using a plank off the peak to a ladder jack. This little platform rests on the roof ladder and on it, I placed an 8 - 16 ft extension. Actually on one house I needed a 12 - 24. The feet of the ladder fit nicely between the cleats.

You would be impressed at how F-ing stable, secure, and strong this was. (After twenty plus years and being dropped once from a roof - it's a little questionable now) . Needless to say I was a tad cautious the first time I used it, but soon I realized it was built well.

For legal reasons, I would not recommend building one of these yourself.

 

[NEPS.US]

The only thing I dont like about that (other than the fact that you were probably stoned or drunk when you drew up the plans) :thumbup:is that it can kick back off the hooked ladder. With the Pivit Tool you can tuck the toe under the rung and that sucker isn't going anywhere!

 

[daArch]

Actually, no plans drawn. It was built on site for a specific job with discarded materials at a new spec house developement up in Wenham. So I don't think I was of alterred states And as luck had it, it worked on many subsequent roofs

No kick backs or tilts or slips. All the weight is right in the middle of the paltform and the notches on the "feet" prevent it from going anywhere. Believe me, this was rock SOLID.

I do not think the Privet was around in the 80's - at least I never saw one until 2002. But what bothered me with the pictures is that one ladder leg is on the shingles - and at an angle, ready to dig in, and I would not be comfortablle with the Privet holding it's place by friction alone. I fear it could slip on a steep incline OR a shingle could break. And you know how slippery a broken shingle on a roof is !

 

[NEPS.US]

Actually, no plans drawn. It was built on site for a specific job with discarded materials at a new spec house developement up in Wenham. So I don't think I was of alterred states And as luck had it, it worked on many subsequent roofs

No kick backs or tilts or slips. All the weight is right in the middle of the paltform and the notches on the "feet" prevent it from going anywhere. Believe me, this was rock SOLID.

I do not think the Privet was around in the 80's - at least I never saw one until 2002. But what bothered me with the pictures is that one ladder leg is on the shingles - and at an angle, ready to dig in, and I would not be comfortablle with the Privet holding it's place by friction alone. I fear it could slip on a steep incline OR a shingle could break. And you know how slippery a broken shingle on a roof is !

good points ...I do like how yours is 2 rungs long ...hey! we could have something here ...with your brains and my good looks we could patent this sucker and go big time!!!!!!!