[Libertine]

Yikes, I almost didn't bother testing this...

Red = Lead



Whats scary to me is that there was only wood behind these chips except for tiny reminants of something white and the top coat was painted 10 years ago. If i wasn't working for myself and my boss said "ok, start sanding that sucker down", i wouldn't have thought twice about it.

These lead test kits are fast an easy to use, so thats nice. This was the first time i used one so i did it twice and used both of the cylinders. The first time i kinda wasn't sure that it was working.

 

[Safety Guy]

I carry a bunch of those test kits with me. They work great, it is amazing where you find lead.

What did you do to take care of the lead???

 

[CharlieWis]

Thats crazy that it was painted only 10 years ago and still had lead, I thought lead paint was outlawed in 1978. Why was there lead?

 

[vermontpainter]

Thats crazy that it was painted only 10 years ago and still had lead, I thought lead paint was outlawed in 1978. Why was there lead?

Perhaps it was encapsulated by subsequent coats.

 

[CApainter]

White lead was used extensively as a wood primer. It has a higher percentage of lead then "Red Lead", which was used on steel structures. I would say by the test color that it's way over 100,000 ppm. Wear a P100 HEPA Filter on your APR.

 

[Libertine]

Yeah, its an older house, so im sure it was painted a long time ago with lead.

I noticed if you drip some of the liquid from the cylinder on the chip, it turns red without much rubbing around without touching (and contaminating) the felt tip, that might be one way to extend those things out some if you wrap them up with some plastic or something. But it does say to rub it for two minutes to be sure and give it some time for the lead to change the color. You be the judge... or better yet, let the scientist with Phd's be the judge and just follow the directions....

 

[DeanV]

Apr?

What does APR stand for CApainter?

White lead was used extensively as a wood primer. It has a higher percentage of lead then "Red Lead", which was used on steel structures. I would say by the test color that it's way over 100,000 ppm. Wear a P100 HEPA Filter on your APR.

 

[CApainter]

APR-Air Purifying Respirator. It uses the filter cartridges.

 

[CApainter]

 

[DeanV]

I have those. Never heard them called with the intitials before. If I am going to have guys scraping lead paint on an exterior and an little sanding (nothing too major) is that sufficient to protect their lungs? Do you have them in Tyvek Coveralls as well?

 

[CApainter]

The coveralls should be disposable like Tyvek. Also, disposable gloves.

Most elevations of lead are contributed through ingestion. Keep hands clean, even before smoking. A wash station at the job site serves this purpose well.

 

[scpainting]

If I am going to have guys scraping lead paint on an exterior and an little sanding (nothing too major) is that sufficient to protect their lungs? Do you have them in Tyvek Coveralls as well?

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you may want to take a course in lead abatement before you have your guys start removing paint.

 

[daArch]

you may want to take a course in lead abatement before you have your guys start removing paint.

in most states there are laws pertaining to lead abatement - or maybe it's a federal thing

Don't get me going about lead poisoning and protecting yourself and YOUR family when you come home covered with lead dust.

BTDT.

It ain't fun

 

[scpainting]

in most states there are laws pertaining to lead abatement - or maybe it's a federal thing

ok i thought it was just a Precautionary Principle enforced by the county you are working in. my bad. my point is i sure wouldnt want anyone to read this thread for a how-to on lead abatement safety stuff. who abates lead anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precautionary_principle

 

[johnpaint]

You not suppose to dry sand this stuff, thats why there are lead abatement companys that charge so much to remove this stuff. If anyone drives by and sees you and reports you for not doing this the right way you might as will just start packing your bags for a one way trip down south.

 

[johnthepainter]

maybe start a vinyl siding division.

 

[scpainting]

If anyone drives by and sees you and reports you for not doing this the right way you might as will just start packing your bags for a one way trip down south.

surely noone drives by and says "soab they are removing lead wrong!" most of the time the guys that would notice are busy removing lead.

 

[johnpaint]

See that's one good thing about living in some areas of the states, but you really have to be careful here in Wash, also in the northern states, and Calif.People get on the internet read things and then they start asking questions.

 

[daArch]

surely noone drives by and says "soab they are removing lead wrong!" most of the time the guys that would notice are busy removing lead.

SURELY people do !!

Thay also report obvious use of illegal aliens.

If you ask me how I know, you may not like the answer!

 

[johnthepainter]

how about illegal aliens removing lead? would you call i.c.e, or the epa or both?