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Hello, Im currently working on the exterior of an old home. Siding and trim are in bad shape. So after preping I decided to mix some caulk and primer together for a nice thick primer. I mix 1 tube per gallon. Has anyone tried this before and if so do you think there are any benefits or downsides from doing this?

Downsides?

Sure. Like total film failure and no leg to stand on when sued.

When you adulterate manufactured goods, you take full responsibility for anything that WILL happen.

Is it worth the chance?

I am reminded of Dirty Harry's most famous line

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It's ok for small spots, you are just making your own elastomeric coating.Not sandable.There are some paste type of coating you can buy at the paint store that are kind of the same thing, they are used mostly for stucco repair.Can't remember the names.some of these painters that live in california/Florida will know.

 

That's why I only used on my own home. daAarch hit the nail on the head.

 

Now we have GA Painter and GAPainter, confusing.

I would not do it. As Arch said you will be asking for trouble.

 

Yea, he stole my name!

 

daArch is that wht you use to run you neighbors off with?

 

Hell, around here if I pulled one of those out, the neighbors would bring over their mason jars and fatties.

 

Dont worry GA_P. No space will be gone soon enough. Adding caulking to paint?

The unemployment line gets longer and longer.

 

First of all, most of u guys are some real jerk-offs. Even on a painting forum griefers and flamers run wild. Too bad. But thanks to the folks who posted nicely written and genuine responses.

Well, I have to say, my experiment worked like a charm. Not only did I add caulk to the primer I also threw in some Flotrol and Emulsa-bond for good measure. Stirred it up nicely and a got a good thick consistency. Really helped build up the surface for a more smoother look. Did it bond? Damn right. Is it sandable? Oh yeah.

You guys need to think outside the box sometimes. What's with all the negativity? I've been in business for 16 years and if I learned anything its too be creative with products.

How can adding a siliconized acrylic latex caulk to 100% acrylic paint affect any of the qualities of what the primer is designed to do? Don't answer this unless you have a lab where you do tests on the chemical compostions and makeups of painting products. If u tried what i proposed first hand; please fell free to post a response.

Have any of you ever tried to get dry caulk of your hands? Hard isn't it.

Now I must tell you guys the truth. I have been doing this for years. Ive used this product on 8 homes in my area over the past 6 years. Never had one problem at all. On 4 of the homes ive been back to do other work over the years. And the paint job? Still looks fantastic. No peeling paint or mildew. So unless the caulk I put into the primer decides one day to just say **** it and fall off, I should be fine. Though I did use a 55 year caulk.

Summary: No law-suits or call backs. I'm not on the unemployment line yet either.

*I DO NOT ADD CAULK TO THE FINISH COAT. NO NEED TO.

 

Why not just use proper products that were made to do what you need them to do?

 

Try toothpaste instead. It'll clean the surface as you brush and fill any cavities at the same time.

 

I must admit, your first two posts are super.

I think you should send your copyrighted formula to Sherwin Williams. You are a genius for thinking outside the box. 16 years? I'm sorry, it sounded more like 16 days.

Why not just mix the primer and the finish coat together to make a self priming paint? Oh wait ....I know.....because it's a stupid friggin' idea. Get in line.

 

Instead of flaming and calling it a "stupid friggin' idea" elaborate some on why you think it's a "stupid friggin' idea". Or is this all you have? If that's the case you're not helping this community.

 

GAP

Not everyone will agree with your ideas.

Your idea does sound kind of like putting your underwear on outside your pants. Nothing wrong with that, just kind of unusual and might get a few stares. Just consider some of this feedback to be stares. And try not to be so sensitive. If we all agreed on everything, nothing new would ever be considered. Your idea is being considered and so far receiving mixed reviews. Welcome to the show.

 

Great post!:thumbup:

 

I think he is just trying to make a thicker primer, one that will feather down so of the highs and lows.
This works good on older homes.If you are working on beatup/old siding, sand it down to knock off most of the high areas,prime with a good primer, then with a hard rubber trowel spread your 55 year caulking over the beat up area to level that area out, let the area skim over a little bit, then lightly wipe down with a wet tile sponge.This works wonders, plus it says put real good, but remember if it is real thick it will flash on you, so you would have to let it dry real good.
This way when you warranty the job it will be fine.

 

Thank you GAP for being so open to our intelligent comments and well thought responses to your novel idea.

It is so heartwarming to see a newbie come on this forum, ask opinions about adulterating products, and listen, with such panache, to the cautions and opinions from perhaps a thousand years of cumulative experience.

BTW, when you write your PhD thesis on the reformulation of acrylics, silicones, and bonding agents would you please mention our names?

thanks much.

Your the best :thumbup:

 

Thank you GAP for being so open to our intelligent comments and well thought responses to your novel idea.

It is so heartwarming to see a newbie come on this forum, ask opinions about adulterating products, and listen, with such panache, to the cautions and opinions from perhaps a thousand years of cumulative experience.

BTW, when you write your PhD thesis on the reformulation of acrylics, silicones, and bonding agents would you please mention our names?

thanks much.

Your the best :thumbup:

Sorry if I seemed like a newbie with my OP. But I was blown away by the sharp criticism my question and idea received. Of those thousands of years experience from this community you would surely think someone has tried this before, on purpose or accident, that replied to my OP. Then giving an answer from experience.

 

Archibald Emulsion Coatings, Inc.

www.stickystuff.com

 

Bill, how long do you cook that oil and latex before you use it?

the real question was how cooked was I to make that mistake - answer: VERY !

Archibald Emulsion Coatings, Inc.

www.stickystuff.com

You've left me speechless - you win :thumbup: BTW, nice article in The INSTALLER, especially the plug. Check's in the mail

 

What type of substrate you working with Mr. Mad Scientist?

 

How many times are you going to edit your posts. Especially the original post for the topic.

hmmmm ....read a few responses ...figure you sound foolish and go back to edit......:thumbsup:

 

that's why it's always best to quote that to which you are responding. Leaves the original intact, like this:

Hello, Im currently working on the exterior of an old home. Siding and trim are in bad shape. So after preping I decided to mix some caulk and primer together for a nice thick primer. I mix 1 tube per gallon. Has anyone tried this before and if so do you think there are any benefits or downsides from doing this?

instead of this:

I mix caulk and primer together. It creates SuperPrimer. Patent Pending.

Edit 1- Changed original topic.

 

When you give your quote and present it to the HO do you write down the steps in your superprimer or do you not tell them at all. Do you usually lie to your customers?

Do you normally mess with the formulas of your products? Do you have any experience with mixing chemicals? Do you think that your little paint company in GA has more information and experience than a major billion dollar paint manufacturer? Do you think they could add caulking to paint but want to increase sales so they break it out into two different products?

Where are all of our paint manufacturers and scientists tonight?

 

add a little durabond 45 that will thicken it up abit .

 

Or a tube of contact cement ...You'll probably only have a few minutes to apply the gallon but it will harden like a rock :thumbsup:

 

Nice Arch

The only conclusion I can come to is that this guy is buying $9 per gallon latex primer at HD and figures if he adds a $1.29 tube of caulking he will be making a super primer and a fraction of the cost.

 

Looks like the topic as derailed. People examining my posting habits now. LOL. Good luck to you guys. I really thought this would be a more professional forum, but was wrong.

Edit once more- and this NEPS guy is one pathetic loser. Trolls a painting forum and flames random people with no logic. But hey man whatever gives u pleasure.

 

Looks like the topic as derailed. People examining my posting habits now. LOL. Good luck to you guys. I really thought this would be a more professional forum, but was wrong.

When you find a professional give him this address.

Toodaloo!

 

Painttalk has a new member integration/conflict resolution specialist named high fibre. He is a compassionate, sensitive man, and a good listener. Send him a pm and he will give you a much more supportive welcome than these playground bullies with their shenanigans.

 

You made me laugh. Thanks

 

After cleaning, scraping, sanding and rinsing I give the surface a coat of SealKrete, a waterproofing product, applied with a pump sprayer. Next day is when my primer/caulk mix is applied.

Wait:blink: wait:blink: wait
You put on a coat of WHAT? followed by a coat of WHAT???

 

That one got me too.?

 

A waterproofing product installed before a WATERBOURNE primer?

One can only imagine the adhesion problems.

 

Besides the obvious, I would also think the SealKrete would have problems with proper house vapor transport.