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So I made the trek to Madison today and visited with Tsunami. I learned a lot about practical application that I otherwise wouldn't know about. I wasn't sure about HVLP, AAairless and those types of things, but learned quite a bit about what a huge pain they could be.

We were testing the paint out on some steel cellar doors... the old-timey ones like people would run into to get away from a tornado. The paint looked good where it applied evenly, but my feeling about it was that we had trouble dialing what the setting for the gun should be. I guess that will be one of the challenges of learning how to apply this type of paint for you guys.

We had a lot of great conversations about DTM Alkyds vs. standard acrylics and what the durability benefits are. Fortunately Tsunami was prepared and had a piece of trim ready to go and he brushed some of the paint on there and it looked amazing in one coat. We even took some pictures of black painted on an old black car door. The gloss level on it surpassed that of the car door. Hopefully once he gets it sorted out he can post some pictures of the finished product. I'll let Tsunami give an honest assessment of the paint to you guys if he chooses, but I have to say this was one of the more educational experiences I've had.

Pics are incoming!

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This is the car door we painted. You can only see where the paint is because I'm a bad applicator and it ran a little bit!


This is what it looked like on trim. Tsunami said we should market it as both a DTM and a trim paint.


This is the pre-primed panel that he sprayed out.


Here it is after being sprayed. We think we got hosed by bad prime job a little bit. It came factory primed.


Perhaps Tsunami can take a few pics of his new collection of Rust-Oleum stuff and make Scott drool over his uber new collection of aerosols. :notworthy:


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How do you do my name is Tsu ! Are you Bare foot in that picture?
Yup!:yes:
My name is Aaron too.
Just went out and checked on the samples. This seriously is the future of trim paint. Level 10 finish in one coat. no primer. And it is not coming off either. Imagine a slow dry oil in water with perfect gloss. Stuff soaks in (or penetrates for you fancy painters) great, no back brushing if you spray.
I think only weathering can tell how it does as a DTM, but it is looking like it will do great.
I need to learn how to use my FP395 better and I am going to have the gun cleaned and repacked, hopefully that will make a difference spraying it. Right now it appears to brush better than it sprays.
 

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I switched to a brand new rac x 415 (probably a little big but for some reason my new FF tip was a rac 5) and a new seal but the paint was bubbleing out of the top of the tip and tailing until I had the pressure at like 2300, air at 35 (and still then it tailed a little). My thinking was with DTM (and my SprayWorks guy confirmed this) is I should be shooting 1200 paint and 20 air.
 

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My thinking was with DTM (and my SprayWorks guy confirmed this) is I should be shooting 1200 paint and 20 air.

The problem with asking for confirmation for just a "DTM" paint is that this is new technology and nobody really can confirm just what the settings should be to spray it. It's completely new and you've never tried anything like it before. I think that over time you will see companies coming around to using similar formulations to the one you tried, but for now, nobody has enough practical experience with these to be able to say it is one certain setting for this type of paint.
 

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The problem with asking for confirmation for just a "DTM" paint is that this is new technology and nobody really can confirm just what the settings should be to spray it. It's completely new and you've never tried anything like it before. I think that over time you will see companies coming around to using similar formulations to the one you tried, but for now, nobody has enough practical experience with these to be able to say it is one certain setting for this type of paint.
Oh no, I completely agree, I am sure none of the SW paints are not using your solids and resins which seemed like they greatly affected the spray ease of it, and I also have never used the air assist on my machine either.

Carter, looking at the trim piece, it looks like the current (tan) formulation is better than the white, older formulation for trim.
 

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Perhaps Tsunami can take a few pics of his new collection of Rust-Oleum stuff and make Scott drool over his uber new collection of aerosols. :notworthy:
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Laugh it up, funny boy. You will regret this snub soon...by October for sure.
 
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