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www.mythicpaint.com

wondering where this stuff is sold and if anyone has used it yet

it's a true no VOC paint...was checking out the site...looks good for the most part
 

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Rich, never heard of it, checked out the site. I think it sounds interesting. Like you, i am curious to know if any other members use this product and what their thoughts are. I found this quote on the site that answered part of your question "Our paints are sold through a national network of independent paint stores. Please give us a call at 1.888.714.9422 and we will be glad to refer you to a dealer near you."
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It's a true low VOC paint with "no" odor...not a no-VOC paint
(yes splitting hairs I know...but...there is a difference)

But there is an ultra low VOC nearly no odor paint I can comment on...
Dude...don't fight it...come over to the dark side...



http://www.myaurapaint.com/
Available near you...right down the street!!!
 

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haha

I'll tell you what-I'll make a deal with you....
I'll treat Aura like I do with electronics, vehicles, and any other technology, I'll wait.....


...until the price drops
I'm not big on buying anything when it first comes out...


(dont worry about splitting hairs, it's imp. to have it right on, after all, we are salesman)
 

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The big difference is that the Mythic Paint does not contain TOXIC chemicals... Breath Deep... lol...

BTW... I'm impressed with their leadership...
 

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The big difference is that the Mythic Paint does not contain TOXIC chemicals...
Eric, if you get a chance maybe you could quickly spell out the difference between the two in regard to this

BM is of course not calling the Aura non-toxic, but rather ultra-low VOC even tinted (low VOC paints are tested w/o tint, which in most cases is solvent-based. Aura uses gennex which is water-based)

But it sounds like you are not talking VOCs, but other ingredients
 

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With the Aura paint the VOCs are as follows:

Matte = 100g/l
Eggshell & Satin = 50g/l

The pigment (tint) = 0g/l

So you can tint darker colors and still maintain the LOW VOC characteristics. The pigment adds no VOCs to the end product.

Two coats in one day and your customer is entertaining that evening. No smell left behind check in hand.
 

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Mythic Paint

I am an employee of Mythic Paint, and to set the record straight, Mythic has been under development for over 6 years, contains No VOC's and No Carcinogens and No Toxins. It cant be any simpler than that. The Paint comes in any color and has performance properties better than any product we have had independently tested. Feel free to browse the site at www.mythicpaint.com
 

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...Mythic ... contains No VOC's ...http://www.mythicpaint.com
My bad...I took the "Low Odor" and lack of "No-VOC" labeling on the glossier stuff to mean it had low VOCs
Reading the MSDS for the semi-enamel clearly states it's No VOCs

Thanks for setting the record (and me) straight KeirK

Glad you stopped in
Hope you can stick around
 

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Glad to see people here with the new products, Keirk.
I am getting more frequent calls for such products.
In days past, it was only EI people who had asked for the products.
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Eric, if you get a chance maybe you could quickly spell out the difference between the two in regard to this

BM is of course not calling the Aura non-toxic, but rather ultra-low VOC even tinted (low VOC paints are tested w/o tint, which in most cases is solvent-based. Aura uses gennex which is water-based)

But it sounds like you are not talking VOCs, but other ingredients
KeirK,

Do you want to handle this one? If you don't know... I can... I think it would be great for you guys to explain about glycols, petrochemicals, and other toxins (like NMP) that are not listed as toxic now but will be soon.

We had made paint and helped 'green' companies formulate these types of products. We don't make these types of products anymore. The company that we were helping wanted us to sign a 10 year non-compete that way really open-ended.

Anyway, I would be curious to know how big your company is? Do you make your own colorants at your own facility? (If not, are you happy with the current supplier... lol) What is the base of your colorants? Surfactant? HMWD? NMP free? (Sorry guys... but... we DO make colorants for other companies... I had to try... lol)

I think it would also be a good idea to explain to these guys why I would ask questions like this... maybe even 'out' some companies that call their products 'green' that really aren't. It seems that those companies are RAMPANT right now.
 

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Toxic Materials

Wolverine it would be my pleasure.
On the surface the VOC's regulations mandated by california and southcoast air quality management (and many others) are primarily in place to regulate low level Ozone (smog) The solvents used in either oil or water based products are the key to smog control. The amount of VOC's emitted from architectural coatings is 23M tons per day or the equivelent of 1.6M cars driving on the road.
VOC's are responsible for things like asthma, lung and heart disease and other health affects, but are also related to global warming, climate change and immediate environmental concerns.
Toxins by definition include VOC's however VOC's do not include all Toxins. The most blatent toxins are carcinogens, which for the most part are not considered VOC's.
Aura (matte) contains 100g/l of Voc the equivalent of the weight of approx 60 nickels per gallon and additionally contains Carcinogens.
The problem with taking out VOC's is the loss of performance. Most Green paints pale in performance to their solvent based competitors. It took over 6 years for us to develop a product that not only has no VOC's, but No Carcinogens or other toxins as well. The only reason we found this enlightening (other than the obvious) are the performance factors, we perform better than traditional waterborne paints. When I say better I really mean way better. It is a revolutionary step for the paint industry and we are really excited about it.
Back to the Toxic colorant question, we use non toxic colorants that are not made at our facility, but I will have to get back to you with there exact composition as I am not in the office today, feel free to send me your company info so we can take a look (always looking at new stuff). We will not allow dealers or others to use toxic colorants as we believe it is misleading to the consumer. A side note, the GOVT has allowed paint manufacturers to print the VOC levels not inclusive of colorant as every base and every color could have a different composition, impossible to regulate unless you had NO toxins in your colorant system. so as you read other cans you will not know the true amount of VOC's and toxins because there are most likely more in the colorant. This again is not true for Mythic.
Your last comment about "green" companies is dead on, there are a tremendous amount of products that are "pretending" to be green. The truth is that until regulation dictates what that is, we will have to watch out for them, some of them have the right social aspects but are really lacking in performance. We call them yogurt paints, they look good in the can, but I wouldnt smear it on my wall.
As for Mythic, we are a real company, with technologies developed in the University of Southern Mississippi. We have a huge patent portfolio and technology background. We have the capabilities to produce volume at a national level. I can't comment on our base technology as it is proprietary.

Sorry for the disertation, but I hope I answered most of it.
 

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Great site, was referred to it by a friend of mine.
I obviously can answer any Mythic Questions, but am eager to learn about the rest of the industry. It looks like their is a tremendous amount of information here.

Keir
Great to have you here Keir, glad to see some manufacturers step in to answer some questions and hang out... welcome :thumbsup:
 
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