[nycpaint]

need help pricing multi spec... i know this paint does not go as far as regular paint.. but if anyone has had alot of exp. with this please reply... this is big job that needs a precise number...(so i dont get hurt, and can finally put some cash back in my pocket lol)..i will have to price by the sq. ft... because i dont know how far this stuff goes, (especially sprayed).. .
if i come in too low, im going to look like a *****, (which i DO NOT WANT)
if there is anyone with this exp. or a good way to bid this... this would be greatly appreciated

 

[Lambrecht]

No... don't ask again.

 

[NEPS.US]

Dont do a big multi spec job if you dont know how to price a small multi spec job.

 

[Workaholic]

Never used it. Do a search there are a few threads floating around about it. There are times to take risks and shine, then there are times when you should play it safe, that is your call but if you think you may lose your ass on it then play safe.

If you go for it then plan on the low end of the spectrum on how far the product will go.

Are you planning on using the small fleck?

 

[Schmidt & Co.]

The last time I used it was about ten years ago. If my memory serves me correct, my production rate wasn't all that bad. Maybe 20% slower than normal. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

 

[nycpaint]

The last time I used it was about ten years ago. If my memory serves me correct, my production rate wasn't all that bad. Maybe 20% slower than normal. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.

thank you so much for your feedback.. as you can see from the other posts, i thought this would be a good place for some great advice .. but from the last two guys who have posted a reply to my question, it seems more like a couple of amatures,(who would prefer to work for someone else, and take a paycheck from them every week , instead of running their own business, taking their lumps, to grow into something much bigger).. that is the road i chose to do..and the rewards are so much better than breaking my ass for a couple hundred dollars(pushing a brush).. the other guy who posted about "if i cant price a smaller multispec job..not to price a bigger job??)this is where the small minded people get stuck, and ultimately have to take a position as a painter.oh, and take a paycheck from someone elses business.. i choose to take the risk of bidding outside the box, or taking on jobs, that i have little knowledge of...because, i will take the chance.. and if it dosent work out... trust me i will have learned from the experience, and i will be that much stronger in MY OWN BUSINESS, ...i forgot to mention that there are very few people who are really go all out for the company that they work for.. the majority of workers are bottom dwellers, who cant make it in the business .. and the first chance they get to screw over there employer(the guy who gives them that check every week!!)they will.. by either bad mouthing him, or taking jobs from him, etc... ive seen all types.. especially in the nyc area(where everyone is out to cut your throat)this makes me stronger...getting back to the worker, who take the "easy road"by taking a check from someone elses company... take a look at what you guys have done ..for example, the worlds trade center job...$4billion dollars OVER BUDGET!! this is the unions workers, who think their s**t dont stink.and who think that just because they are part of a "UNION", they DESERVE a check every week... well now the taxpayers have to step in and continue to pay these lowlifes, who decided to "take a check".. i must stop for now, because im getting sick thinking that i have to hire a few new faces...IN MY COMPANY... thanks for your reply schmidt and co.

 

[nycpaint]

No... don't ask again.

thank you so much for your feedback.. as you can see from the other posts, i thought this would be a good place for some great advice .. but from the last two guys who have posted a reply to my question, it seems more like a couple of amatures,(who would prefer to work for someone else, and take a paycheck from them every week , instead of running their own business, taking their lumps, to grow into something much bigger).. that is the road i chose to do..and the rewards are so much better than breaking my ass for a couple hundred dollars(pushing a brush).. the other guy who posted about "if i cant price a smaller multispec job..not to price a bigger job??)this is where the small minded people get stuck, and ultimately have to take a position as a painter.oh, and take a paycheck from someone elses business.. i choose to take the risk of bidding outside the box, or taking on jobs, that i have little knowledge of...because, i will take the chance.. and if it dosent work out... trust me i will have learned from the experience, and i will be that much stronger in MY OWN BUSINESS, ...i forgot to mention that there are very few people who are really go all out for the company that they work for.. the majority of workers are bottom dwellers, who cant make it in the business .. and the first chance they get to screw over there employer(the guy who gives them that check every week!!)they will.. by either bad mouthing him, or taking jobs from him, etc... ive seen all types.. especially in the nyc area(where everyone is out to cut your throat)this makes me stronger...getting back to the worker, who take the "easy road"by taking a check from someone elses company... take a look at what you guys have done ..for example, the worlds trade center job...$4billion dollars OVER BUDGET!! this is the unions workers, who think their s**t dont stink.and who think that just because they are part of a "UNION", they DESERVE a check every week... well now the taxpayers have to step in and continue to pay these lowlifes, who decided to "take a check".. i must stop for now, because im getting sick thinking that i have to hire a few new faces...IN MY COMPANY... thanks for your reply schmidt and co.

 

[nycpaint]

No... don't ask again.

thank you so much for your feedback.. as you can see from the other posts, i thought this would be a good place for some great advice .. but from the last two guys who have posted a reply to my question, it seems more like a couple of amatures,(who would prefer to work for someone else, and take a paycheck from them every week , instead of running their own business, taking their lumps, to grow into something much bigger).. that is the road i chose to do..and the rewards are so much better than breaking my ass for a couple hundred dollars(pushing a brush).. the other guy who posted about "if i cant price a smaller multispec job..not to price a bigger job??)this is where the small minded people get stuck, and ultimately have to take a position as a painter.oh, and take a paycheck from someone elses business.. i choose to take the risk of bidding outside the box, or taking on jobs, that i have little knowledge of...because, i will take the chance.. and if it dosent work out... trust me i will have learned from the experience, and i will be that much stronger in MY OWN BUSINESS, ...i forgot to mention that there are very few people who are really go all out for the company that they work for.. the majority of workers are bottom dwellers, who cant make it in the business .. and the first chance they get to screw over there employer(the guy who gives them that check every week!!)they will.. by either bad mouthing him, or taking jobs from him, etc... ive seen all types.. especially in the nyc area(where everyone is out to cut your throat)this makes me stronger...getting back to the worker, who take the "easy road"by taking a check from someone elses company... take a look at what you guys have done ..for example, the worlds trade center job...$4billion dollars OVER BUDGET!! this is the unions workers, who think their s**t dont stink.and who think that just because they are part of a "UNION", they DESERVE a check every week... well now the taxpayers have to step in and continue to pay these lowlifes, who decided to "take a check".. i must stop for now, because im getting sick thinking that i have to hire a few new faces...IN MY COMPANY... thanks for your reply schmidt and co.

 

[TJ Paint]

Why did you triple post?

Trying to trick me?

Didn't work.

Good luck with the project.

You come and ask a question and then you get all mad if it's not answered. I've done that. So I just don't really ask many questions anymore. Not that I need to anyways... I'm a know it all painter.

 

[Ramsden Painting]

We did a large apt complex common halls a few years back. They purchased the material but had the SW rep do the takeoffs. 8 buildings 425 gallons. We provide labor and minor repairs. After performing some test areas for coverage they chose a certain pattern ( thickness). When the job was complete we had over 150 gallons left. The apartment complex mgr was thrilled with the look.

As far as application just a lot of masking as its difficult to remove overspray if I recall. Much slower spraying than airless. I would say 60 percent.

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[TJ Paint]

what is multispec?

 

[Oden]

thank you so much for your feedback.. as you can see from the other posts, i thought this would be a good place for some great advice .. but from the last two guys who have posted a reply to my question, it seems more like a couple of amatures,(who would prefer to work for someone else, and take a paycheck from them every week , instead of running their own business, taking their lumps, to grow into something much bigger).. that is the road i chose to do..and the rewards are so much better than breaking my ass for a couple hundred dollars(pushing a brush).. the other guy who posted about "if i cant price a smaller multispec job..not to price a bigger job??)this is where the small minded people get stuck, and ultimately have to take a position as a painter.oh, and take a paycheck from someone elses business.. i choose to take the risk of bidding outside the box, or taking on jobs, that i have little knowledge of...because, i will take the chance.. and if it dosent work out... trust me i will have learned from the experience, and i will be that much stronger in MY OWN BUSINESS, ...i forgot to mention that there are very few people who are really go all out for the company that they work for.. the majority of workers are bottom dwellers, who cant make it in the business .. and the first chance they get to screw over there employer(the guy who gives them that check every week!!)they will.. by either bad mouthing him, or taking jobs from him, etc... ive seen all types.. especially in the nyc area(where everyone is out to cut your throat)this makes me stronger...getting back to the worker, who take the "easy road"by taking a check from someone elses company... take a look at what you guys have done ..for example, the worlds trade center job...$4billion dollars OVER BUDGET!! this is the unions workers, who think their s**t dont stink.and who think that just because they are part of a "UNION", they DESERVE a check every week... well now the taxpayers have to step in and continue to pay these lowlifes, who decided to "take a check".. i must stop for now, because im getting sick thinking that i have to hire a few new faces...IN MY COMPANY... thanks for your reply schmidt and co.

Why would anyone who was in business and applied multispec as a part of their business give you a number for a sq.ft. Price? What would be in it for them?
You think you " deserve" it? Are you a lowlife looking for an "easy road"?

 

[Schmidt & Co.]

Are you a lowlife looking for an "easy road"?

Really? Why go there?

 

[Oden]

Really? Why go there?

He went there. I Just called him on it.

 

[robladd]

What type of material are you applying? The airless type is a fine spec finish.

There is also a medium and course finish that requirers air spray application with a special nozzle set up for air cap and needle.

Zolatone has been the leader in these type of finishes for decades.

So there is too many variables to consider to give you any advice.

I would consult Zolatone tech data info first and determine your finish and substrate.

 

[robladd]

What type of material are you applying? The airless type is a fine spec finish.

There is also a medium and course finish that requirers air spray application with a special nozzle set up for air cap and needle.

Zolatone has been the leader in these type of finishes for decades.

So there is too many variables to consider to give you any advice.

I would consult Zolatone tech data info first and determine your finish and substrate.

The reason I say this, I did a 10 story sky scraper in DTLA where we used fine, medium and course finishes on the low rise, mid rise and high rise part of the building with 9 colors and 3 textures.

Then interior we did walls and trim with airless and air spray. So we put it on everything from precast, drywall, MDF ect.

Masking was both art and science on this particular job.

 

[nycpaint]

Never used it. Do a search there are a few threads floating around about it. There are times to take risks and shine, then there are times when you should play it safe, that is your call but if you think you may lose your ass on it then play safe.

If you go for it then plan on the low end of the spectrum on how far the product will go.

Are you planning on using the small fleck?

yup, going with a small fleck... thanks for the reply

 

[nycpaint]

Why would anyone who was in business and applied multispec as a part of their business give you a number for a sq.ft. Price? What would be in it for them?
You think you " deserve" it? Are you a lowlife looking for an "easy road"?

this is supposed to be A COMMUNITY OF FELLOW PAINTERS ....NO?if someone came to me, with a question, (that could improve themselves,advance their business, put more money in their pocket to care for their families....i would call them and help them in any way i could....no one looking for an easy road pal!
As for the person who asks for money, for some information...these are the ones who are usually home , WAITING for their phones to ring..
Best to you

 

[nycpaint]

We did a large apt complex common halls a few years back. They purchased the material but had the SW rep do the takeoffs. 8 buildings 425 gallons. We provide labor and minor repairs. After performing some test areas for coverage they chose a certain pattern ( thickness). When the job was complete we had over 150 gallons left. The apartment complex mgr was thrilled with the look.

As far as application just a lot of masking as its difficult to remove overspray if I recall. Much slower spraying than airless. I would say 60 percent.

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thanks for the reply, some of these guys are on the site just to break balls i guess...
i did contact the sher.williams rep some time ago, but this kid was about 22 yrs. old, and he really had no clue of whats goig on... booksmart, that was about it..no field exp.

 

[Paradigmzz]

this is supposed to be A COMMUNITY OF FELLOW PAINTERS ....NO?if someone came to me, with a question, (that could improve themselves,advance their business, put more money in their pocket to care for their families....i would call them and help them in any way i could....no one looking for an easy road pal!
As for the person who asks for money, for some information...these are the ones who are usually home , WAITING for their phones to ring..
Best to you

Relax, consider it hazing. Just make sure if you are willing to ask for advice, be willing to give it as well. Many come on here and think they are entitled to the best possible answer and then are never heard from again. People get irritated by the something for nothing crowd.

Welcome to paint talk.