[thepainterr4you]

picked up a titan 440 today

any tips on usage or maintence never used a titan

 

[GMack]

picked up a titan 440 today

any tips on usage or maintence never used a titan

Other than cleaning it thouroughly after each use, oiling the pump etc, the only advice I'll give is about long-term storage. Anytime I've had a problem with an airless, it has been during initial use after a long period of storage. I haven't had any problems since I switched to storing the units with thinner instead of water/pump shield . . . If you think you won't be using the unit for a while, follow your normal cleaning procedure and when you're done, pump a gallon of mineral spirits through the pump.

As far as usage, I would assume that anything in your general area will get paint on it, so protect:thumbsup: Oh, and go make some money!

 

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Other than cleaning it thouroughly after each use, oiling the pump etc, the only advice I'll give is about long-term storage. Anytime I've had a problem with an airless, it has been during initial use after a long period of storage. I haven't had any problems since I switched to storing the units with thinner instead of water/pump shield . . . If you think you won't be using the unit for a while, follow your normal cleaning procedure and when you're done, pump a gallon of mineral spirits through the pump.

As far as usage, I would assume that anything in your general area will get paint on it, so protect:thumbsup: Oh, and go make some money!

Interesting.... Never thought about pumping with Thinner... huh...

Someone told me to never store it on a concrete floor... something to do with pitting the piston shaft or the pump block walls???.... It's one of those things I have heard now and again, but could never remember why.. so perhaps someone could clarify?

GMack, do you store it on a concrete floor?

J

 

[APC]

I've had a titan 440 for about 3 years and sprayed a ton of stuff with it. Zero problems that I can think of I just clean it really good after each job, keep it primed with thinner when not in use, use a squirt of that piston oil before each job--I think thats whats its called. Anyways if you treat it well it will treat your wallet great.

 

[APC]

Gmack you didnt like the pump shield stuff? As I said in the previous post I always leave thinner in mine but I hate the smell in my van so I actually bought a bottle of the pump shield yesterday assuming it worked. Now I'm having second thoughts.

 

[GMack]

Gmack you didnt like the pump shield stuff? As I said in the previous post I always leave thinner in mine but I hate the smell in my van so I actually bought a bottle of the pump shield yesterday assuming it worked. Now I'm having second thoughts.

Keep in mind, I'm just telling you my experiences but, no, I've always used pump shield and (I'm guessing) two times after long term storage, my sprayers wouldn't hold pressure. That's why I switched to thinner. I'm talking about at least 6 months of storage for the times I've had problems. The manuals say thinner so that's what I do now. I think they say pump shield for short-term storage. I don't think they define what "long" or "short" term mean.

As for the cement floor thing, I've never heard of that but would like to know more if anyone has any info.

 

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I also have the 440i

Wow... I had to really dig through the manual to find this, as there was nothing specifically for "Storage". It was found as a "Note" on page 7:

For long-term or cold weather storage, pump mineral spirits through the entire system.

For short-term storage when using latex paint, pump water mixed with Titan Liquid Shield through the entire system.

Also as I continue to read:

CAUTION! Do not store the unit under pressure.

That is all I found. It seems storage is important to us but not Titan?

I read a PDF for a Grayco product and they listed a "Storage" in their table of contents....

Not knock-n Titan, I like the sprayer, but they could possibly do something about adding a "Storage" area in the instructions...


J

 

[NuView Painting]

i store mines with thinner...keeps everything oiled ..watch how you turn the prime switch I had a helper priming it for me he force turned it the wrong way...always use a 12gauge or bigger cord plugged directly in to the socket keep it cleaned your good to go

 

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The other thought would be to use Kero. It is more oily than thinner. I just check to make sure that they prime before I dip them in paint. Normal it is just a stuck ball.

 

[YubaPaintPro]

Hi guys,
I bet if you check w/ your local experienced repair shop, they will tell you "long term" storage ought to be a blend of 10/40 and mineral spirits. Especially in the cold markets. I would suggest that "thinners" alone will dry out your packings. Thinners will evaporate over time and any dry start is a bad start.

Graco's PumpArmor is similar to the product mentioned earlier, and I really haven't heard any negative about "long term" storage w/ it here in CA.

 

[GMack]

The other thought would be to use Kero. It is more oily than thinner. I just check to make sure that they prime before I dip them in paint. Normal it is just a stuck ball.

You're certainly right that often times it's a stuck ball, several times I've opened up the pump when it wouldn't hold pressure and found that the ball was stuck, much to my relief.

I don't know about anyone else but around here, it pays to work on your own sprayers. In the past, I'd bring in a $700 440 to be repacked. It would take them literaly weeks to do, they'd always find something else wrong, then I'd get a bill for $400 or so. No good sprayer repair shops around and it makes no sense to pay $400 to fix a $700 machine . . . I'm usually a big proponent of "you do your job and I'll do mine," but now I work on my own sprayers.

 

[thepainterr4you]

thanks

thanks everyone I wil pump some mineral in it

used for 3 dys did all the ceilins, doors, jams and base in job worked great

thanks again

 

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thanks everyone I wil pump some mineral in it

used for 3 dys did all the ceilins, doors, jams and base in job worked great

thanks again

I know we focussed alot on the storage issue, is there anything else specifically you have questions about? If not , kewl. If so, welllll, you know, none of are leaving anytime soon.

Enjoy your sprayer and holler when you need

J

 

[thepainterr4you]

question

I do have one particular question when I changed tips to do the doors i noticed I was getting a spit everytime I pulled the trigger like 3 thick dots. I did move around the pressure to see if it was that and there was no change. NOt sure what to do I probably killed a gallon seing I had to start well before the door to not get the spit on the door first 6 inches of paint went on the floor.

thanks in advance

 

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Most like likely it is in the gun. You mite try to adjusting it and see if you can get stop it spitting. Or a spot of dirt under the needle and ball but it is most likely the first idea. A lot of time once I pull the trigger I don't stop till it is complete. But I like to due my doors flat hang off barn spikes.

 

[Boden Painting]

Hi guys,
I bet if you check w/ your local experienced repair shop, they will tell you "long term" storage ought to be a blend of 10/40 and mineral spirits. Especially in the cold markets. I would suggest that "thinners" alone will dry out your packings. Thinners will evaporate over time and any dry start is a bad start.

Graco's PumpArmor is similar to the product mentioned earlier, and I really haven't heard any negative about "long term" storage w/ it here in CA.

that's what my guys told me, they'll even omit the mineral spirits and just pump it full of motor oil. never tried it myself, thinner has always worked fine for me

 

[YubaPaintPro]

I agree w/ Veith. Likely the gun w/ dried paint/dirt stuck on the ball or seat of the gun. They really aren't too difficult to fix yourself. Download the manual.

 

[deco-renovations]

Remember that there is a filter on the bottom of the pump!! (I sometimes forget that it's there because you don't see it!!)

 

[bikerboy]

The other thought would be to use Kero. It is more oily than thinner. I just check to make sure that they prime before I dip them in paint. Normal it is just a stuck ball.

For as long as I can remember that is what our family business used. Cheaper and easier to get than thinners. Never any problems, don't worry about freezing.

 

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Freezing is what antifreeze is made for. I store pumps with it all of the time. If they are going to freeze. All of the way out to the gun. Years ago I had one of my worst accidents because of ice in a line. And when I did it I had all ready stop myself once from doing it, and turn right around and redid it. Just one of the thing you learn to live with in cold country. Not the Accident but the cold. It come off sounding the wrong way.