[HomeGuardPaints]

I'm a spray virgin, never used a rig or know much about them. I run the business of painting and my employees do the application.And I do 98% residential repaint. anyway I seem to have a hard time finding employees that I can trust with application(drips, runs, spills ect). So naturally I'm trying to find a way to keep the paint in my best guys hands and have helpers for these guys that do all the prep and masking ect. So my question is about the actual application-- is it practical to spray exterior trim( example would be vinyl house with wooden trim) and would you advise this? Second should I do this for interior occupied homes in place of brush and roll?
What do you recommend for masking?

My idea is that I replace labor on the brush and roll with masking and just get one guy to spray it out.

Am I making this too simple or could it really work.

I appreciate everyone's input

Mickey

 

[chipster]

Are you one of those franchises? How is it working out for you? Are you able to make decent money after paying the franchise their cut. I see so many of them on the internet and always wondered if they were above board.

 

[T200]

How can you "run the business of painting" without knowing about painting?

 

[Rich]

So my question is about the actual application-- is it practical to spray exterior trim (example would be vinyl house with wooden trim) and would you advise this?

not practical IMO

 

[Rich]

Second should I do this for interior occupied homes in place of brush and roll?What do you recommend for masking?

NO interior trim spraying in occupied homes!

What is your big problem with brush/roll? And why the rush to replace it? Is your goal to be one of those "blow and go" guys?

 

[slickshift]

I'm around 98% occupied res-repaints and it hasn't been worth the cost for me to buy a sprayer

The few times a year I can actually use one I rent

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

I'm not a franchise, and I know about painting. I am unfamiliar with spraying.

I'm not in a hurry at each job(blow and go) I sell my jobs on quality and the price reflects that but it seems everyday that some idiot on the staff spills on the brick or roof or cat. It seemed logical to me to take painting away from those who can't and have them do something less distructive while my best men hold the brush or in this case the spray gun

Thanks for the feed back

 

[painterman]

The type of spraying you want to do is not worth while.If your guys are not working up to your standards replace them. Oh ya...an unskilled spray man can make an even bigger mess with a spray unit.

 

[Housepainter]

I would stay away from sprayers. The sprayers does not eliminate the problems that you mention. It only creates them...just with a new toy.
I just picked up a custom home contractor because of the crews who cannot paint..whether by brush or sprayer.

 

[Wickedgood!]

Me and a guy that I paint with were doing a new construction interior/exterior the past summer. I read a tread about spraying trim on new const and it got him and I talking.. This was a 4000sq ft home, hard woods were in but we had rosin paper throughout. We brushed and rolled the whole thing.. Could we have sprayed the trim & doors?!! What is the technique? Is there a different sprayer for it?

Thanks!
Wg

 

[chipster]

I sell my jobs on quality and the price reflects that but it seems everyday that some idiot on the staff spills on the brick or roof or cat.

There lies the paradox for the customer when hiring the big shiney expensive silver tongue devil contractors.:devil:

 

[DelW]

Sprayers have their place, IMO repaints isn't one of them. And why on earth would you trust people who can't handle(or can barely handle) a brush with a sprayer?

 

[NuView Painting]

What is the technique?
1st prime the machine with the material you want to spray
2nd aim it at the spray target
3rd becareful not to go to slow it will run
4th dont go to fast or it wont cover

make sure you have the right tip and filter for the job,

 

[slickshift]

.... it seems everyday that some idiot on the staff spills on the brick or roof or cat.....have them do something less distructive...my best men hold the spray gun

The disaster potential with spraying is much higher, especially in occupied re-paints

And the prep men are responsible for some of the worst disasters, not the spray gun holder
If the prep guys half-a$$ the taping...you're toast

It's one thing to steam clean a rug, quite another to get a call back for over-spray that got sucked up the stairs in the living room, through the bedroom, and into the bathroom, and deposited on every surface, knick-knack, grand piano, painting on the wall, bed-cover, and shower curtain along the way, because homey turned on the fan in the crapper

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

Thanks for the ones who added constructive advice, I think after reading from a few of you that basically I was dreaming that there was an easier way. I also assumed that one responsible man could spray the entire house while two knuckleheads taped, but alas this still puts too much responsibility on the knuckleheads. So I guess its just time to clean house a little. But why not spin off on that---Hiring painters. I'll make a new thread

The disaster potential with spraying is much higher, especially in occupied re-paints

And the prep men are responsible for some of the worst disasters, not the spray gun holder
If the prep guys half-a$$ the taping...you're toast

It's one thing to steam clean a rug, quite another to get a call back for over-spray that got sucked up the stairs in the living room, through the bedroom, and into the bathroom, and deposited on every surface, knick-knack, grand piano, painting on the wall, bed-cover, and shower curtain along the way, because homey turned on the fan in the crapper

Thanks this is helpful advice

 

[The paint whisperer]

Home, Don't give up!
Go rent one and try it out to see if you like it.
Somebody has to learn, and start out at some point.

 

[CobraCDN]

I always spray ceilings in repaints, poly off the rooms (Tape the top wall line after stapling the poly up, keep poly 3/4" down). Cover the floors with drop cloths, and spray ceilings. Same as prepping new Cont for texturing but covering floors.

Rest I hand-bomb

Nice thing about this technique is you can really straighten out the wall to ceiling line if it was bad to start with.

Cheers

 

[cole191919]

Spraying stipple or most textured ceilings makes sense to me. Its a hell of a lot easier to do, quicker if you have the right system, and looks better if executed properly. Especially doing stipple when you have to go N-S, then E-W to get full coverage. A lot easier doing that with a sprayer then a split foam roller.

 

[Chameleon]

Spraying trim doesn't seem to make sense to me.....especially for wood trim unless it includes the eaves as well. The "Brush" man is where your trouble lies. If your brush man can't keep his paint in the pail, or on the trim...he's not your man. Spraying the trim will take just as much time as brushing it. But the idea of brushing the paint on wood trim is much better. For one you will get a better coat, as well as working the paints into the substrate. Two, if our spray you are just laying a film over the surface, which eventually may lift, and cause an unwanted service call at your expense.

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

Well the eves are included when I say trim. But it is my understanding that spraying will actually give you a thicker coat vs brush.(which is the opposite of what i've always believed) also I'm not trying to make up time, but rather have less people touching the paint.