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Paint failure on drywall

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#1 ·
3 year old rental property that I am repainting. There are several patches (12"x16") in the drywall where the electrician had to open the walls. All the patches have a failed tape joint where it attached to the existing painted wall surface. The bond to the new panels were fine. I determined that the failure was not the joint compound, but it was the bond between the drywall surface and original primer/paint. The tape pulled the paint off the wallboard. The one area we repaired had paint scraping off in sheets leaving fresh clean looking drywall paper. We pulled off about 4SF, but probably could have cleaned off the whole wall if we tried.

Any idea what caused this? I would not think excess spackle dust since the failure is consistent on each repaired area, in multiple rooms. Ive been in two other units in the building and they are fine and patches did not fail.

I don't know who did the original painting or the patches, but I'm the lucking guy to find the problem!

Here are some pics of the paint removed.
 

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#3 ·
I'm not sure. There was a little dust that comes off the back side when I rub it. Here is a pic of the back where it was on the wallboard. You can see the texture of the paper in the paint.

I didn't think to take a picture of the wall before we retaped it.
 

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#4 ·
Could be any number of reasons. Poor drywall prep (dust removal) could be one. Another is some sort of moisture getting in behind the drywall. I know, you'll say, "no way, there's no plumbing or roofing issues to speak of", but, it's funny how moisture finds its' way in. Could have been an ice dam on an outside wall, a plumbing leak in some copper pipes, a bathtub or toilet that overflowed..........

I had one a few years back.......went to roll out a wall and pieces came off the wall onto my roller kind of like the pieces in your picture.......did some investigation and found out that a customer's toilet had overflowed a month or so previous......that moisture was enough to pop off the paint ever so slightly and my roller just suctioned it off the wall.
 
#6 ·
It's hard to say, I know there's multiple scenarios. I have been in 3 of the 6 units and this is the only one showing symptoms so far. Some of the rooms are upstairs, some downstairs. Some on unit partition walls others on inner walls. I will test moisture, but I think any moisture issue may be mitigated at this point, there's no visible staining.

I've never had adhesion issues rolling flat over bare drywall, is their more potential of failure spraying a builders flat and not back rolling? Or dust for that matter? Anytime I've rolled over dust, it gets stuck in the roller and makes a mess, is a sprayed finish more vulnerable to dust? I would think the pressure would blow it away.
 
#7 · (Edited)
El cheapo primer like pva or such watered down to dusty water, no time for anything to dry, prime texture paint at once, which made a solid mortar like substance hanging on dusty watery solution with little diluted glue remainder that dried out with time, that's why you see dust in the back, adhesive part of the primer no more.

PS: it might of being "primed" with just a diluted drywall mud.