Paint Pricing?
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Whether you include paint in your pricing is entirely up to you. 🤷♀️ . Maybe fill out your bio/profile, so we know what your background is..You'll get more responses.
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Hello,
This is my first post =)
This is how we charge.
price per door
price per drawer
price per side panel
price for knob placement
price per large pantry doors
price per glass door
price for inside box (usually if they have glass door we paint inside that and where the microwave goes)
price per shelves
We charge a fee for additional colours
we charge a fee for swapping hinges to soft close
price per large damaged area. if we have to fix edge bandings or if veneer is damaged.
This is my first post =)
This is how we charge.
price per door
price per drawer
price per side panel
price for knob placement
price per large pantry doors
price per glass door
price for inside box (usually if they have glass door we paint inside that and where the microwave goes)
price per shelves
We charge a fee for additional colours
we charge a fee for swapping hinges to soft close
price per large damaged area. if we have to fix edge bandings or if veneer is damaged.
Just an aside, this is the type of pricing thread we welcome here on Paint Talk. A “how to price” thread is infinitely more valuable (and totally within the rules) than a thread where someone is just asking how much they should charge.
RH
RH
This is a pretty loaded question. Have you done many kitchens? Firstly and most importantly you need to know how much your time is worth. Secondly, you need to know how long it takes to perform tasks. Keep a log and then you can make up any formula you want. There is no set in stone way.
However a per door charge is the easiest way. (imo). I also charge for end panels, wine racks, crown moulding and light rail. Will you have to repaint walls after? In my experience a good starting point is about 2 hrs labour per door, including its box. Times that by your hourly rate and voila. However sometimes people only want the doors done. Sometimes you have to drill holes. Sometimes you have to fill old holes. Everything should have a time allotment and you need to make up a price list. EG. How long to take a door down? How long to install a door? Keep it in your files for proper pricing for every situation.
Every kitchen is different.
And to add to what Kevyn wrote, don’t forget the masking or removal of door hardware, whether it be man doors or cabinet doors. Then, it all needs to go back. Hinges can be especially problematic so make sure to label each each one as well as the spot on the doors where they came from. It’s amazing how a group of apparently identical hinges will vary enough to make reinstalling any door a royal PITA if they don’t go back exactly where they were. And if the customer ever wanted all new hinges or pulls, well, I always did those on an hourly basis because I never knew what I might be getting into. Or, if it was a really challenging change over situation, I would recommend they have a cabinet guy do the new install for them so I could stay comfortably in my lane.
Hourly is ideal. Dropping doors, removing drawer faces if even possible, and putting it all back together takes time. Is the house occupied? Working in an occupied space takes longer. How long is it going to take to set up your workspace to rack the doors and drawers? Labeling doors and drawers takes time. As RH stated, it's imperative that you keep the same hinge in the same spot on every door, otherwise you will find Yourself learning how to adjust door hinges on the last day of a job that you want over with already. Lots of moving parts and variables.
He's asking how to price a cabinet job. Not how to do it. Just saying. Nobody is going to let you paint a kitchen "by the hour" That's just silly.
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Once you have done a dozen sets or more you can feel confident pricing by the door and drawer. Three types of doors; regular, glass, pantry. Drawers; face comes off or mask with the drawer. That set individual price will include the cabinet. Then add a small price for ends of cabinets, bakers racks, wine racks, shelves, islands, second color. Masking, prep, sanding, is all included with the door price. When you are all done, average margin should be about 50%. Total of job - labor - materials = margin
Wasn't trying to tell him how to do the job. I was trying to illustrate the steps that are variable in time. Lots of silly folks up here, I guess, as I just finished my second cabinet refinish of the year. Hourly.
Most Contractors are not going to do a job "hourly". Not even sure why somebody would. Unless you're doing "extra"s..
I have only done about a dozen or so cabinet jobs. I stopped...the prep work is just way too tedious for me but if I ever did another one you bring out some things I never thought about. Extra for: shelving, big pantry door etc., glass door, etc.. Never thought about because none of that was included in the work I had done. But, Im prepared now, just in case. You just saved me from a possible future pricing nightmare. Lol! Thank you.
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We only do cabinet so i have pretty much nailed my formula. I have an excel sheet that I just input the information in and it gives me a price. Hourly is not something that people would go for. They want to know what the cost is and decided if they want to do it or not. Also your price will be different if you have a shop or if you will do everything at a clients house.
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I've done a bunch of cabinets and have never charged hourly (for any of my work). The way I do them is 3-coats; primer +2 and it's usually pretty expensive. I price mine as someone else mentioned by doors (sm, med, lg), drawers, if they want the interior paint
ed or not and side walls - that's about it. I'll add an "upcharge" for doors with windows but that's usually one or two so not much there.
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ed or not and side walls - that's about it. I'll add an "upcharge" for doors with windows but that's usually one or two so not much there.
Did you do the interiors of the boxes on this job?
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Nope
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