Prep for wallcovering
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
Joined
·
14,174 Posts
Joined
·
12,314 Posts
I should have been clearer, sorry.
I am trying to determine if I should include priming and sizing in my bid or would it be part of the wallpaper hangers bid? Or does it depend on the hanger?
On the prints it is not part of the paint finish schedule.
I am trying to determine if I should include priming and sizing in my bid or would it be part of the wallpaper hangers bid? Or does it depend on the hanger?
On the prints it is not part of the paint finish schedule.
Joined
·
6,467 Posts
:no:
What the hell is sizing? I haven't seen sizing in over 10 years, unless I make my own to go over bare plaster walls. Nobody uses or sells sizing anymore. Its called primer now.
It really depends on the hanger. If you prime my walls with oil, you will meet one pissed off paperhanger. I'd say get them smooth, and walk away. If you can find out who the hanger is, call him and ask him how he wants them done. I always ask for Gardz as a primer. If I feel that they don't or can't comprehend that, I ask them to step away from the wall and I'll do it my damn self.
Joined
·
30,726 Posts
please read:
http://billarchibald.com/size.html
most hangers will spec what prime is suitable and almost all will prefer to apply their preferred prep coat.However, YMMD
May I suggest that you communicate with the wallcovering installer to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Communication is the antithesis of failure (Hey, that may be a good sig line :thumbsup: )
http://billarchibald.com/size.html
most hangers will spec what prime is suitable and almost all will prefer to apply their preferred prep coat.However, YMMD
May I suggest that you communicate with the wallcovering installer to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Communication is the antithesis of failure (Hey, that may be a good sig line :thumbsup: )
Joined
·
12,314 Posts
Thanks, that's what i was thinking, just trying to get my bid completed while I was waiting for his info.
Joined
·
417 Posts
Looks like you got the answer you were looking for already, but i dont care! When we bid a prime job, we generally bid to prime ALL bare drywall with whatever primer the job calls for (we're a preprite 200 fan). If the builder wants prep for wallpaper, we'll price that in with the finish coats as a single finish coat using Preprite PreWallcovering Primer.
Joined
·
30,726 Posts
Mantis,
I do not know any of the S-W coatings, so I can not address the
appropriateness of them.
One thing that we installers NEED on the walls (in this reduced VOC world) is 100% acrylic primers.
The long wet out and torsional pull while drying that wallpaper
subjects undercoatings to make less quality coatings inappropriate.
Also, many wall preps are the "tacky" type (Romans R-35, Calif Prep n size,
etc). These are great to hang on, but often present issues when stripped.
PLEASE communicate with the professional wallcovering installer about the
application of any coatings prior to installation, unless of course you are
willing to sign your name to the guarantee that there will be absolutely no
problems. (BTW, fixing a bad wallcovering job is way more expensive than
fixing a bad paint job)
Each installer will have his/her prefered primer and/or prep coat depending
on walls, wallcoverings, paste, and personal liking.
Joined
·
417 Posts
Both Prep-Rite classic and Prep-Rite PreWallCovering primers are 100% acrylic. I would be very suprised if any hangers had issues with the products I use. The walls they come to hang their goodness on get 1 coat of the standard primer, sanded, and a coat of the PrepRite PreWallcovering Primer. The PrepRite PreWallcovering Primer alone would be good enough as its a primer/sizer in one.
As we do primarily new construction, we unfortunately almost never get to see the hangers unless they have to come back and fix something when we're punching. To be honest, I'm not sure I would use a different product anyway. Not to be a douche, but I'm not going to make a special trip to pick up a product from retailer X if I'm confident the products im currently using work just fine.
As far as problems and my liability, that's between the hanger and the general contractor. If the hanger wants to use a special primer he should communicate that with the GC when bidding. If the GC asks us to prep for wallpaper, all we can do is what we normally do. I think our process is great, honestly.
As we do primarily new construction, we unfortunately almost never get to see the hangers unless they have to come back and fix something when we're punching. To be honest, I'm not sure I would use a different product anyway. Not to be a douche, but I'm not going to make a special trip to pick up a product from retailer X if I'm confident the products im currently using work just fine.
As far as problems and my liability, that's between the hanger and the general contractor. If the hanger wants to use a special primer he should communicate that with the GC when bidding. If the GC asks us to prep for wallpaper, all we can do is what we normally do. I think our process is great, honestly.
Joined
·
30,726 Posts
In the words of the inimitable Richard Dawson (Family Feud),
"Good answer!" :thumbsup:
Joined
·
121 Posts
SW makes a pre-wallcovering primer. It gets the wall ready to have wallcoverings put onto it. It has sizing in it.
Joined
·
3,388 Posts
I always use an oil based primer prior to someone putting up wallpaper. I once saw a friend use Benjamin moore 100% Acrylic fresh start on some plaster walls - and the paper hanger came in applied his paste to his paper - and then we both watched as hundreds of these really big expanding bubbles in the paper popped up. It was explained to me that it wouldn't have happened if an oil primer was used.
1 - 19 of 19 Posts
