[larryt]

prolly been discussed here before sorry if it is
just wondering what the prices for sq feet is in your area on new houses is
in kelowna they charge by floor space(after reading these forums i see why many charge by wall space)but going rate for all (walls doors trim crown etc)is around $2.25-$275 sq floor space
repaints i eyeball time and material and add 20%
just wondering as i said what its like where your from
not trying to start a flaming thread

 

[Kelly Painting]

My magic number is $2.50. This of coarse does not include the following:

exterior doors. crown moldings. detailed staircases. Faux painting.
and it has to be winter and we are very hungry.

 

[HomeGuardPaints]

I charge $80 a room, paint included 2 coats, trim and ceilings.

thats up to a 50 x 50 room.

Now it does go up for rooms larger than that, you know the big money at $95 a room.


Exterior painting is a flat $300 a house, no matter the size, they are all the same anyway.

my closing rate is 100%, never lost a sales call

Stick with this and your dreams will be fulfilled

 

[Brian]

going rate for all (walls doors trim crown etc)is around $2.25-$275 sq floor space

From just over $2 to just under $300 a square floor space is a pretty big range.

I'm curious how you determine how many doors and windows there are from the floor area. For that matter, I'm curious how you determine the wall surface area from the floor area.

I don't know what the going rate is in my area, because if I charged the "going rate" I'd be going broke. Which raises another issue I am often curious about-- why does anyone care about the going rate?

Brian Phillips

 

[vermontpainter]

From just over $2 to just under $300 a square floor space is a pretty big range.

I sure hope we are missing a dewey decimal on that one...The best builders I know arent charging $300/s.f. to build custom homes!

I'm curious how you determine how many doors and windows there are from the floor area. For that matter, I'm curious how you determine the wall surface area from the floor area.

Estimating based on floor s.f.'s actually works great...Brian, come on, every floor usually has 4 walls with it (never more and sometimes less). Usually in the 8-10' height range. No big difference. Once in a while theres a foyer with stairs and a couple of high walls...maybe we throw that in as a perk. Every room has a door and maybe a window or two. Its simple. Estimating based on floor s.f.'s is really pretty accurate...when painting floors.

I don't know what the going rate is in my area, because if I charged the "going rate" I'd be going broke. Which raises another issue I am often curious about-- why does anyone care about the going rate?

I guess at times I have wondered in terms of hourly rates what range certain painters in my area are operating in. I would only want to know so that if I was out in left field in either direction, at least I would be aware of it. I have to say that when guys throw out s.f. numbers on here it blows my mind how low those numbers are. I couldnt gas up my truck and load the materials for some of these numbers. Yikes.

 

[timhag]

I charge $80 a room, paint included 2 coats, trim and ceilings.

thats up to a 50 x 50 room.

Now it does go up for rooms larger than that, you know the big money at $95 a room.


Exterior painting is a flat $300 a house, no matter the size, they are all the same anyway.

my closing rate is 100%, never lost a sales call

Stick with this and your dreams will be fulfilled

:w00t::laughing::lol:

 

[CharlieWis]

I charge $80 a room, paint included 2 coats, trim and ceilings.

thats up to a 50 x 50 room.

Now it does go up for rooms larger than that, you know the big money at $95 a room.


Exterior painting is a flat $300 a house, no matter the size, they are all the same anyway.

my closing rate is 100%, never lost a sales call

Stick with this and your dreams will be fulfilled

Ok I was hoping that was saracsm...........

 

[Brian]

Estimating based on floor s.f.'s actually works great...Brian, come on, every floor usually has 4 walls with it (never more and sometimes less). Usually in the 8-10' height range. No big difference. Once in a while theres a foyer with stairs and a couple of high walls...maybe we throw that in as a perk. Every room has a door and maybe a window or two. Its simple. Estimating based on floor s.f.'s is really pretty accurate...when painting floors.

Have you never seen a room shaped like a hexagon or an octagon? I have, though not perfectly so.

I agree that a 2' difference in ceiling height doesn't matter much. On a house with 500 lf of wall that would only be a potential error of 1000 sf. That's only 3 gallons of paint for 1 coat and 4 or 5 man hours. I think that is something we should all be willing to throw in for free. (This paragraph was written in sarcasm.)

As you say, using the floor sf is good only if you are painting the floor. Using floor sf might work if you are hell bent on losing money or just being lazy.

If anyone disagrees with this, tell me how many doors and windows are in the 2,400 sf house I looked at this afternoon.

Brian Phillips

 

[timhag]

Ok I was hoping that was saracsm...........

Nope, thats way more than we charge in our area. Even tho we live in different areas, I'm thinking of increasing my prices to match his. Don't know if that a good thing or not?

 

[vermontpainter]

[quote=Brian;27674If anyone disagrees with this, tell me how many doors and windows are in the 2,400 sf house I looked at this afternoon.


Well thats easy. 16 doors and 32 windows.

 

[tsunamicontract]

$80 a room? man you are lowballing this guy:

And now they've started a new advertising campaign

I called, asked what they charge per room. He said with a very uneducated voice a "hunrid dolla a room, depen on how big it eh". Swear to God, that is exactly how he sounded........lol I tahnked him for his time and hung up. I'll call him again in a few.

 

[Brian]

Sorry Scott, but in toto you are way off.

Brian Phillips

 

[MAK-Deco]

I would say around my area in a neighbor hood that houses are around 2400sf they mostly would be similar in the amount of a doors and windows. bedrooms, baths are usually the same etc.. I do have a rate that goes by floor space it gives me a number to start with based on the average house and then I look at the "prints" (what a concept) to determine if the number need to be adjusted up or down. usually it ends up on the up side.

 

[larryt]

ya i think i forgot a decimal lol
no seriosly out here to get any new stuff it goes by sq on the floor space not surface and that includes all trim and caulking filling ect..
reason i ask is i am kinda sick (jelous)seeing how much other people onm here charge but if i went by surface here and added trim to the price we would get laughed at
the price of 2.25-2.75 is high some of the builders have guys locked up at 1.85 out here
after the hassles i have had on this last job i think i will go to the surface footage to price now and if i dont get anymore new stuff oh well aint fn worth it
stick to repaints

 

[GMack]

Last year we did a dryfall job for a builder/developer in our area. Tough job but we made good money. We're done with the job and the guy asks us to price a small new construction house he's having rocked right then.

I walk through with him, take my notes, etc. and give him a written proposal the next day. I think it was about $6,500, doesn't matter.

"Jeez," he says. "That's almost $4 per square foot!"

"O.K."

"Well, I usually can these done for $1.85 per square."

"Oh, really," I say.

I didn't get the job. I wasn't upset. He was.

 

[crow]

22 doors 38 windows. I once painted a room that had 6 walls in it. and it had crown all through it, with two difrent kinds of base. Id paint a 2400sf. for 6500$ that includes trim. Ill paint a average room for anywhere from 400$ to 800$ but thats just labor, they buy the paint!

 

[aaron61]

I just saw a local painters website that reads exterior repaint at .65 cents per sqft floor space 1 story over 1500 sqft./.75 cents under 1500.

 

[premierpainter]

22 doors 38 windows. I once painted a room that had 6 walls in it. and it had crown all through it, with two difrent kinds of base. Id paint a 2400sf. for 6500$ that includes trim. Ill paint a average room for anywhere from 400$ to 800$ but thats just labor, they buy the paint!

Lordy me.....you must be RICH!!!!!
btw the $$$$$ sign goes before the number.:no:

 

[mjkpainting]

Trust me I am not trying to sound like a big shot but some of these prices I am reading here are shocking!!! Is it because we live in different areas???? Fellas, we have to get paid for our time.

I live in Connecticut and for standard new residential construction most painters I know bid $3.00 to $3.40 a square foot. We have a pretty good reputation and we are most often $3.50 a square foot or more.


Includes Prime, Two coat ceiling, two coat walls same color flat double coat trim

That doesn't include exterior of doors, basement hallway. chair rails, crown molding, stair risers/spindles or garage.


To be honest, unless your material cost is EXTREMELY low or your paying your labor Extremely low, I have no clue how you can make money under $2.50 and do a nice job.


Everyone runs their business differently. I believe if have insurance, home improvement license, truck/van and good equipment it costs a good amount of money each year. I try and price jobs where my partner and I make at least $40/hr each.

 

[crow]

You aint gonna have to worry bout soundin like a big shot. (if your tryin to make at least 40$hr.) your like the average, mabey even the lo'guy. somma these guys round here wont even get in the van for less than 60$hr! and I hear up in like vermount its more like 100$hr! at 40$hr with what you ran off for expenses. that 40 turns into 10 real fast.