Restoration Hardware Paint Quality, Tips and Reviews

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ymgroner

Discussion Starter · Apr 3, 2019

Does anyone have experience with Restoration Hardware paint?
I have a job that I am doing and the home owner wanted me to use Restoration Hardware brand paint. It has turned into a nightmare. All the spackle lines came out. When I try and fix it the paint rolls on in a diff shade. To top that off I am going through 3x the amount of paint that I have ever gone through with any other brand I have ever worked with.
Someone please help I am at a complete loss.

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Holland

· #2 · Apr 3, 2019 (Edited)

The nice thing about paint is that you can almost always re-do it!

In response to using the customer's paint:

I am usually agreeable to use whatever the customer insists on using, but communicate with them that they are not the paints I typically use, and therefore I am not as familiar with how they handle, or any idiosyncrasies they may exhibit, etc...

I also disclaim any liability associated with using paints that I am not familiar; That includes extra time and material that may be the result. I think this is a fair and reasonable policy, and the customer who insists on using their own paint, will likely not be surprised by it.

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PACman

· #3 · Apr 3, 2019

sounds like another of those super ultra high dollar exclusive colors yak,yak,yak paint brands that are just crappy paint in a fancy label. The label and can probably cost more than the paint in the can. That whole part of the industry pisses me the f*ck off! You probably would have been better off using behr.

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Redux

· #4 · Apr 3, 2019

PACman said:
sounds like another of those super ultra high dollar exclusive colors yak,yak,yak paint brands that are just crappy paint in a fancy label. The label and can probably cost more than the paint in the can. That whole part of the industry pisses me the f*ck off! You probably would have been better off using behr.

Sounds like the C2 brand a client requested for their 10K sq ft house I did a few years ago, having purchased all the paint for the entire house.

After only the 2nd day into finish I ended up repackaging all the material and leaving it curbside with a big “Free Paint” sign, switching over to Moore’s..charging the client..I’ll admit that the C2 colors were really nice but Moore’s was able to cross reference all the colors to BM products. What was lost in material expense was saved in labor by switching to Moore’s.

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cocomonkeynuts

· #5 · Apr 3, 2019

Alchemy Redux said:
Sounds like the C2 brand a client requested for their 10K sq ft house I did a few years ago, having purchased all the paint for the entire house.

After only the 2nd day into finish I ended up repackaging all the material and leaving it curbside with a big “Free Paint” sign, switching over to Moore’s..charging the client..I’ll admit that the C2 colors were really nice but Moore’s was able to cross reference all the colors to BM products. What was lost in material expense was saved in labor by switching to Moore’s.

C2 is now partly owned by PPG. The PPG rep was pushing their product hard this last year and got me some samples. I tried the cabinet paint in a dark color and for the first 2 months it was off gassing this horrid chemical/solvent smell. 6 months later it has cured, but this stuff mars if you even look at it funny. It did lay out nicely though.

They do have nice 'full spectrum' colors which make them difficult to match. Some of their colorant is extremely expensive too around $100/quart.

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Redux

· #6 · Apr 3, 2019

cocomonkeynuts said:
C2 is now partly owned by PPG. The PPG rep was pushing their product hard this last year and got me some samples. I tried the cabinet paint in a dark color and for the first 2 months it was off gassing this horrid chemical/solvent smell. 6 months later it has cured, but this stuff mars if you even look at it funny. It did lay out nicely though.

They do have nice 'full spectrum' colors which make them difficult to match. Some of their colorant is extremely expensive too around $100/quart.

Funny you mention the off gassing...the primary reason the client opted for C2 was they were concerned about off gassing..the off gassing in C2 supposedly being minimal..

The issues I experienced with the C2 is that it didn’t cover for squat...laid out nicely as you mentioned.

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stl911

· #7 · Apr 3, 2019

i used it once, the home owner bought the paint, it looks ok to me but it is light color over builder's flat

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cocomonkeynuts

· #8 · Apr 3, 2019 (Edited)

Alchemy Redux said:
Funny you mention the off gassing...the primary reason the client opted for C2 was they were concerned about off gassing..the off gassing in C2 supposedly being minimal..

The issues I experienced with the C2 is that it didn’t cover for squat...laid out nicely as you mentioned.

The white was fine but the dark blue color was seriously bad and it was for at least 2 months. I talked with a c2 dealer who uses it in his shop and he told me th same thing

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Gymschu

· #9 · Apr 3, 2019

This business can give you all kinds of trouble and heartache, but, the most trouble a painter can get into is when the customer insists on buying the paint. It RARELY ends well.

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Redux

· #10 · Apr 3, 2019

cocomonkeynuts said:
They do have nice 'full spectrum' colors which make them difficult to match. Some of their colorant is extremely expensive too around $100/quart.

It’s nice knowing that the Moore’s color matches to the full spectrum C2 colors might not be spot on..The owner on the project I mentioned, a client of ten years, has been through several estate property managers the past few years. I received an email from the newest hire a couple of weeks ago, wanting to bring in her own painters and needing the interior finish schedule. I had the only paint color schedule in existence in Excel, with both the C2 colors and the BM cross referenced formulas/bases. There were upwards thirty C2 colors. I deleted all the Moore’s info, just sending them the C2 colors....no touch-up cans left on site either....oh boy, are they going to be in for a surprise, not to mention the 160 mile drive to the nearest C2 dealer..I’m waiting to hear about the fallout on that one when nothing matches..:devil3:

Yeah, I feel for the OP, and Gymschu is absolutely correct about it rarely ending well. All bets are off if the client specifies a particular product or supplies material that I’m not familiar with.

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PACman

· #11 · Apr 3, 2019

I'm off gassing pretty badly myself at the moment. Chipotle for lunch.

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Brushman4

· #12 · Apr 3, 2019

ymgroner said:
Does anyone have experience with Restoration Hardware paint?
I have a job that I am doing and the home owner wanted me to use Restoration Hardware brand paint. It has turned into a nightmare. All the spackle lines came out. When I try and fix it the paint rolls on in a diff shade. To top that off I am going through 3x the amount of paint that I have ever gone through with any other brand I have ever worked with.
Someone please help I am at a complete loss.

Apparently, RH paint was made by BM up until 2007. All the colors are available at BM with different names. https://boards.fool.com/so-am-wondering-if-i-can-avoid-the-delay-by-27411670.aspx

RH paint may currently be made by Rodda, according to this! http://www.painterforum.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=1508.0

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