[NE_PA_Painter]

Sanding is not so good for arthritic shoulders and clean-up afterwards is time consuming. Looking for feedback on ways to:

1. Make sanding easier

2. Reduce amount of dust released into work area.

3. Make clean-up simpler.

Thinking primarily of interior, residential work.

I’ve tried vacuuming walls after sanding – worked to some extent, but I may need more hp in shop vac (have small 2.5 hp unit).

I’ve also used a palm sander (don’t remember the brand) attached directly to a shop vac for sanding some trim and that seemed to work pretty well to control/minimize dust.

Anyone use a sander with its own dust collection bag attached and found it to work?

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.

John

 

[timhag]

I used a sander that connects to a shop vac. What I do is run the sander hose to a 5 filled 1/4 of water(going in one side of the lid) Then I run the shop vac hose to the other side of the lid. This will cut down of filter cleaning. Works like a champ.

 

[timhag]

Price is under $25.00

 

[ProWallGuy]

I use a Hyde Dust Dog w/pole attached to a vac.

Contain area with Zip Walls.

 

[timhag]

PWG, ever run that to a 5 with water? Brother, will will save soo much time not having to clean that filter every 15mins.

 

[ProWallGuy]

I don't use a filter on the vac, only a bag.

 

[timhag]

I don't use a filter on the vac, only a bag.

I'll use a bag for the smaller jobs but, use the set up for bigger ones.

 

[DeanV]

I would think the water bucket would not be needed if you have a good filter bag in the shop vac.

 

[timhag]

I would think the water bucket would not be needed if you have a good filter bag in the shop vac.

I hear ya Dean, was taught that method and continue to use. Seems to work best for me.

 

[Joewho]

Are you saying you dip the whole head in a 5? I don't get it yet.



While sitting on toilet, with elbow on knee, and fist to chin, I have pondered the vacuum dilemma. I asked myself, "Self, what is it about vacuums that bother you" ( I spun the paper holder to muffle the converstaion).

Well, I guess it's trying to get just the right one. Aside from drywall dust and site clean-up, I need a vacuum/w brush attachment, that will suck the dust out of wood pores. That is very important to me. They can keep the giant shop vacs that sound like sick jet engines and blow dust out the back as quick as it sucks it up.

The smaller ones have smaller motors, and that sucks because the whole point is to filter out the dust, which makes the motor work harder and it won't suck the dust out of wood pores. In the end you wind up using rubber bands to hold the filters on and the narrow plastic attachment because the brush won't suck enough.

I would like, but don't have, a metal, commercial, powerful, small shop vac.
Too expensive for painting, but not for a finishing shop. Standard filters equal to the foam and paper with an extra dust bag on the exhaust.

In the end we agreed that we'd discussed this before and came to the same conclusion. If I want to hear the radio over the vacuum, and if I want a vacuum that will suck the dust out of wood pores but not spew any dust, then I'll have to decide how important it is and make it a priority.

So, I asked myself, " Self, how much of a priority is it?". Welll......

 

[timhag]

Are you saying you dip the whole head in a 5? I don't get it yet.

Not the whole head Mr Joe, just the tip brother.....just the tip.

 

[vermontpainter]

I asked myself, "Self, what is it about vacuums that bother you" ( I spun the paper holder to muffle the converstaion).

Well, I guess it's trying to get just the right one.....

Joe

We had a thread on here a while ago called "ShopVac Snobbery". There you will find my usual strong opinion. Seriously, I love my shopvacs and have three Feins, maybe even 4, I've lost track

 

[EricTheHandyman]

Price is under $25.00

I use this baby with a drywall bag in the shop vac. works great, nothing to clean, just throw the bag away when it's full and throw on a new one.

 

[DeanV]

For repaint work, I have a smaller 5 gallon vac that still uses a 5.5 hp motor. It is nice when you have to work around furniture, home owner stuff, and smaller repaint work. Does not get in the way likea 16 gallon one can. If you use a filter collection bag, it does not clog, I just need to remember to keep them on hand. For new construction, a larger one is nice with a long hose.

 

[Z paint]

are feins quiet? and can u get the filters at el cheapo or do u usually get them offline....also i have to rigid wet dry vacs...after i bang the dust out sometimes i was the filter in the utility sink and let dry in the sun... does anybody think that is a good or bad idea...my friend details cars all day and complains about the noise of his vacuum...becase he vacuums alot do u think i should point him towards using a fein for that application as well

 

[painttofish]

Joe

We had a thread on here a while ago called "ShopVac Snobbery". There you will find my usual strong opinion. Seriously, I love my shopvacs and have three Feins, maybe even 4, I've lost track

I googled Feins. Holy cow, $500 for a shop vac. Does it convert into an airless to?

 

[BEAR]

want dustless sanding

portercable 7800 dustless sander hooked up to portercable shop vac with heapa filter for small area's 5 inch dewalt sander hoohed up to vac also.I use this sander to sand all walls before paint 99% dustless. sand and paint don"t even need to tack walls. blows customer away when I pull this huge sander out of my snowboard bag and there is no dust flotting around the house when done. my drop clothes never get dusty.pole sand I forgot how to do that