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ive been struggling with this question for the last year... should i join the local here and become a union guy or stay freelance and keep all mu money. i am self employed but i know there is some security in unionising and i wonder what you guys think?:blink:
I was born and raised in a union home, my first job was union, most of my work life has been through the union.

I like it, good pay, good pension, good benefits. I think I saw you have a family, well after you put in some hours you have medical. Want to get good proper training? Basically free for you through your union.

There are quite a few cons, for example where I am its a lot of BS with the larger companies. I had guys asking for me on there jobs, but because two guys didn't like me (because they don't like apprentices) I was laid off (much to the dismay of the company supervisor).

If you show up early everyday, work overtime when asked (sometimes without OT being paid), keep your head down and do a good job you'll be fine.

Feel free to all me any questions. I'll be happy to answere
 

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You won't get the nod over him! It is senority first in last out. you can be busting your hump all day long and the more senior guys are out slacking. You get your slip and back to the Hall you go. They get ROF'ed and they go back to the hall and get hired first because they are senior to you. Get the picture now how unions work? Oh and when your starving have no food on the table and you are in the hall waiting for a dispatch just remember to pay them dues. So the Buissness manager can keep his job.
In the unions I've been in (district counsel 38 - BC, Canada, local 1590 -London/Sarnia, Ontario) there is no such thing as seniority, its written into or contacts.

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thanks fellas for the advice, so i decided to take the test and challenge for journeyman in toronto, ont. CA(local 416). they want me to take a test and i dont know whats gonna be on it. i am an experienced painter, but im anxious to see whats on the actual test. is there any literature or resource where i could refresh my technical knowledge?
The Toronto finishing trade school offers refresher courses, and that's probably where you'll have to write you're IP.

Here's there website
http://www.ifstc.com/contact

Good luck on the exam, is hard. Anything under a 70% is a fail. Honestly I would take all three levels of school, its only 15 weeks if you can get then back to back to back. All the little things that you don't learn on site they teach you. You would be surprised how much is actually involved and encompassed in or trade. There are also drywall/tapping questions as well

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