[robladd]

17 years on swing stages & aerial work platforms I can honestly say I never used a tray but I know they have their place in residential & commericial.

I know I haven't ever seen 1 in industrial or marine.

 

[chrisn]

It does seem that trays better facilitate loading the roller with paint. There are some advantages to each. I used to be a hard core bucket guy, but the Kvord bags have helped my transition to trays. They make all the difference to me.


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Can you get them anywhere besides SW?

 

[Rbriggs82]

Can you get them anywhere besides SW?

Prolly on the Internet, I've only seen them in SW tho.

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[Gymschu]

Have you tried the Kvord bags?
Ease of mobility is one of the things I like best about them.

It's certainly a drawback to most trays that you have to use both hands to move them.The bags are made of a slick material that easily slides over drop cloths so you can move it with one hand by sliding it around the room.


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Yes, Jmays, I have a bunch of the KOVRD bags, and you are right, they are good and slick and you can pull your tray along with ease.

I'm a bit disappointed in the KOVRD bags for holding out air that gets to your brushes and rollers. They claim you can keep them inside for up to two weeks without them starting to dry out, but, I've had a few times where in a couple days my roller sleeve was beginning to dry out. So, now, for insurance, I wrap the brush and the roller in plastic THEN put them in the bag.

 

[SemiproJohn]

I prefer trays to grids, but am using a grid in a 5er now on an exterior stucco repaint. My biggest beef with dipping the roller in the 5 gallon bucket is that, for me anyway, it is impossible to not get paint on the sides of the roller frame. After loading my roller, invariably I drip some paint from the side of the roller onto the ground when lifting the roller out of the bucket. Not every time, but much too often. This never happens when using a tray. However, moving a bucket around outside is much easier than moving and refilling a tray frequently.

 

[mudbone]

Tray all day.
Buckets are useless and kill production.
Posture is horrible using a bucket. Plus grids push paint out of a roller.
Tray pushes it in the roller.
I could roll out half a wall by the time you were to dip a roller in a 5.
Its like churning butter.
Tray is superior on all levels. Its a no brainer.

This is coming from someone who rolled from a bucket for 10 yrs before rolling out of tray.

Very well explained. "Clearcut"!

 

[The Cutting Edge]

Tray all day.
Buckets are useless and kill production.
Posture is horrible using a bucket. Plus grids push paint out of a roller.
Tray pushes it in the roller.
I could roll out half a wall by the time you were to dip a roller in a 5.
Its like churning butter.
Tray is superior on all levels. Its a no brainer.

This is coming from someone who rolled from a bucket for 10 yrs before rolling out of tray.

Buckets are useless and kill production. Yeah right. No way is a tray somehow faster than a bucket and grid. No way. While you're reaching down with both hands to move your little paint tray without spilling any paint out of it I'm already around the corner. When you're refilling your little tray I've already left the room.
Posture is horrible? Maybe get a handle so you don't have to bend over.
Whoever makes handy paint pails now has a plastic bucket grid without any holes in it. Looks like the bottom of a roller tray in a bucket. I couldn't stand them. If paint sits for any time on it it dries up and pulls off on the cover.
I'm sure its the same for trays as well. I'm just not sure cause I haven't used a tray since I was maybe 13
Trays are for homeowners.

 

[radio11]

The crew that I run with all use the project buckets from SW, etc. I thought everybody that got paid to paint did. Live and learn I guess. A tray, huh? Nah! [emoji848]


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[jr.sr. painting]

Regarding kovrd bags our local SW stores has stopped carrying them and said they're done with em

 

[beedoola]

I prefer trays to grids, but am using a grid in a 5er now on an exterior stucco repaint. My biggest beef with dipping the roller in the 5 gallon bucket is that, for me anyway, it is impossible to not get paint on the sides of the roller frame. After loading my roller, invariably I drip some paint from the side of the roller onto the ground when lifting the roller out of the bucket. Not every time, but much too often. This never happens when using a tray. However, moving a bucket around outside is much easier than moving and refilling a tray frequently.

Yes, I've experienced this too. Even with micro fiber rollers - which seem to hold paint better, it still builds on the end and roller frame.

Use a micro fiber 3/8" nap with a tray today (the jumbo sized tray) and not one drip.

I agree with others regarding situations with multiple colors: having multiple tray liners makes things a lot easier.

 

[MikeCalifornia]

I used a bucket a couple of times, and did not like how messy the frame became. Paint all over it. Now I use the Wooster deep 14 inch tray. It takes a gallon of paint. Only down side is that the liners cost $5, which I think is a bit steep.

Here you go Pete, these work great!!

http://www.valleyproproducts.com/

 

[Clearlycut]

Buckets are useless and kill production. Yeah right. No way is a tray somehow faster than a bucket and grid. No way. While you're reaching down with both hands to move your little paint tray without spilling any paint out of it I'm already around the corner. When you're refilling your little tray I've already left the room.
Posture is horrible? Maybe get a handle so you don't have to bend over.
Whoever makes handy paint pails now has a plastic bucket grid without any holes in it. Looks like the bottom of a roller tray in a bucket. I couldn't stand them. If paint sits for any time on it it dries up and pulls off on the cover.
I'm sure its the same for trays as well. I'm just not sure cause I haven't used a tray since I was maybe 13
Trays are for homeowners.

Must have ruffled a feather
lol
My tray barely moves from the middle of room.

I carried that same type of ignorance around with me along with a bucket for a long time. Lmao

The only place my paint sits to dry is on the wall.

I could go in but its not worth it.

Rather stay constructive with the thread.

 

[lilpaintchic]

I'll take a tray over a bucket all day long. Neat, tidy, cleaner frame elbow and no drips. I'll take a stack of liners, paint a bunch of different colors and never miss a beat.its just easier. And I never get those dried bits of paint goobers on my walls from the grid and bucket system. It's never "terrible" with a bucket, I j u st prefer a pan. Do a section, put the pan in it. Never have to think about spilling it or whatever...just a preference I have. Whatever makes the money flow is the "best" way. The rest is just opinion.

 

[chrisn]

I'll take a tray over a bucket all day long. Neat, tidy, cleaner frame elbow and no drips. I'll take a stack of liners, paint a bunch of different colors and never miss a beat.its just easier. And I never get those dried bits of paint goobers on my walls from the grid and bucket system. It's never "terrible" with a bucket, I j u st prefer a pan. Do a section, put the pan in it. Never have to think about spilling it or whatever...just a preference I have. Whatever makes the money flow is the "best" way. The rest is just opinion.

That is my pet peeve

 

[Rbriggs82]

90% of the time I'm working in furnished home with everything in the middle of the room. Do y'all use a pan in those situations, or only in empty rooms where you can put it in the middle? Also if you need two hands to move the tray what do you do with the roller and pole? Do you have to take it apart, put the roller in the pan then move it?

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[goga]

it is impossible to not get paint on the sides of the roller frame. After loading my roller, invariably I drip some paint from the side of the roller onto the ground when lifting the roller out of the bucket.

Well, if you dip it all the way into the paint in the bucket, yeah, that will get the paint all over and inside of it. But who does such a nasty thing? You dip it only skin deep, just to get a bit of paint on side of the cover, spin and dip again. Strange to hear it from the painters who paint every other day.

And even if there is a paint on sides, use brush to brush it off and keep it clean. When lifting out of the bucket, little twist of a roller from side to side makes the paint stay on it without running down off of one side just like you lifting your wet hands out of a sink when the towel is not near by while reaching across the room))

 

[The Cutting Edge]

Must have ruffled a feather
lol
My tray barely moves from the middle of room.

I carried that same type of ignorance around with me along with a bucket for a long time. Lmao

The only place my paint sits to dry is on the wall.

I could go in but its not worth it.

Rather stay constructive with the thread.

Ignorance huh? Your response proves my point. So you set your little paint tray in the middle of the room and never move it. Well I can see how that's far superior for production as you said. Every 1 or 2 runs with your roller you have to walk over to the middle of the room to get more paint.
If you're on a repaint do you cover all the floor so you can set it in the middle?
I just use runners around the floor so in the middle of the room is unprotected unless I'm doing ceilings. My bucket is always right next to my work not across the room. I'm usually in the paint for 8-10 hours a day so yeah its gonna dry and pull on a plastic tray. At the end of the day I drop the grid in the bucket and put the lid back on. No bags needed.
Trays are for homeowners.

 

[Wildbill7145]

Obviously, trays are not for home owners based on the fact that we've got a bunch of successful veteran painters in this thread claiming to have used them for years without issue including myself.

The 'passion' over this issue of preference is pretty funny though. Whatever works.... Works.

 

[The Cutting Edge]

Obviously, trays are not for home owners based on the fact that we've got a bunch of successful veteran painters in this thread claiming to have used them for years without issue including myself.

The 'passion' over this issue of preference is pretty funny though. Whatever works.... Works.

You're right Bill. I understand people use whatever works for them and that's great. But to say buckets kill production. Its a no brainer and I must be ignorant since I use a bucket is just wrong. It is not better for production and there's no way it can be. Using a tray is slower. It just is. You guys use whatever makes you money. :thumbsup:

 

[Rbriggs82]

Obviously, trays are not for home owners based on the fact that we've got a bunch of successful veteran painters in this thread claiming to have used them for years without issue including myself.

The 'passion' over this issue of preference is pretty funny though. Whatever works.... Works.

Pop a bag and buckle in, that was just the previews the feature presentation is about to start.