[MAK-Deco]

I was wonder if any one had a favorite water poly. I will be doing a new construction basement in a few weeks. The stain will be old masters wiping custom to match some cabinets the owner is putting in.

I plan on spraying (HVLP) water poly for smell and quick dry and re coat issues being in a basement. I have use a few over the years and can't say I like one more tan others...

Any opinions.

My thoughts as of now are Old Masters or BM Stays Clear. Cabot has an interior poly now and I use it for a small sample (got free qt) and it seems good.

 

[GMack]

I've only used one water -based poly to date, made right here in Vermont. Vermont Natural Coatings. I have nothing to compare it to but I can say that it is durable and sands very nicely. I've only brushed it and, of course, it dries way too fast but that shouldn't be a problem if you're spraying. I was adding floetrol . . .

 

[tsunamicontract]

I don't think that water poly holds up nearly as well as oil poly. Certainly wouldn't use them anywhere water might accidently stand (window sills, horizontals, etc)

 

[DeanV]

Give Graham Ceramathane a try. It sprays great with HVLP, dries fast. Brushes great too. Every know and then I will get a quirky batch, but it gets nice and hard. Does not need to be thinned at all to spray with HVLP (unlike Stays clear). It is a crosslinking arylic urethane. I would recommend spraying two coats over the stain and then sanding, seems to help prevent additional grain raising if you do 2 coats first and then sand it the next day and do your final coats.

 

[vermontpainter]

ZAR ULTRAMAX!!

MAK - I just had the exact same situation. Had to match custom cabinets. Sapile wood (like mahogany) with dark walnut gel stain and sprayed lacquer. The ultramax was incredible. Check it out.

 

[YubaPaintPro]

BM Stays Clear is a very good product w/ a lot of track record/performance w/ my customers. Again, we have a great product "Kel-Thane II" that isn't avail to you in your area as we are not in Chi-town. I love Chicago. Welcome Ken Griffey Jr. to the south side.

Check out our product specs.
http://www.kellymoore.com/products/groups/clearfinishes

 

[MAK-Deco]

ZAR ULTRAMAX!!

MAK - I just had the exact same situation. Had to match custom cabinets. Sapile wood (like mahogany) with dark walnut gel stain and sprayed lacquer. The ultramax was incredible. Check it out.

The wood I am matching to is Lyptus a wood like mahogany too. My stain mix is 3 parts Spanish oak 1 part vintage burgundy. Is the Ultamax a lacquer?

 

[vermontpainter]

The wood I am matching to is Lyptus a wood like mahogany too. My stain mix is 3 parts Spanish oak 1 part vintage burgundy. Is the Ultamax a lacquer?

Nope. Its a waterborne oil modified poly. In other words, low odor, fast drying like a water (even has the milky white look in the can and water clean up), but the coating you end up with looks, feels and performs like an oil. Incredible. I dont know how I ever lived without this.

 

[johnthepainter]

zar is the cats meow,,,,that stuff looks so fat when your done

ive shot stays clear, polycrylic, old masters, and they are all nice,,,,,

 

[Boyfromthenorth]

While I am a big fan of Zar, I would highly recommend GENERAL FINISHES Acrylic Poly. I can say its like nothing I've ever used. I've sprayed it and brushed it. It looks better brushed than Minwax or Sikkens or AquaZar does sprayed. Seriously, if you can find a place that sells it, give it a whirl. Their Satin is gorgeous.

 

[painttofish]

Coronado has a product called Aqua Plastic Urethane that is the best water borne I have used. Graham's Ceramithane is also a good product.

 

[MAK-Deco]

I have always heard that Coronado's was BM's Stay clear in a different can.

 

[Dmax Consulting]

This has been informative for me too. Thanks, everyone.

 

[painttofish]

I have always heard that Coronado's was BM's Stay clear in a different can.

Hmm. Don't know.

 

[Gnarlywood]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MAK-Deco
I have always heard that Coronado's was BM's Stay clear in a different can.

Hmm. Don't know.
Traverse City Painters

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You can often find out who actually made a product in the MSDS. Or find the ingredients and compare.

Gnarlywood

 

[MAK-Deco]

Quote:
Originally Posted by MAK-Deco
I have always heard that Coronado's was BM's Stay clear in a different can.

Hmm. Don't know.
Traverse City Painters

____________________________________

You can often find out who actually made a product in the MSDS. Or find the ingredients and compare.

Gnarlywood

well if they weren't before they probably are now since Coronado is owned by BM

 

[eews]

Last n Last Ultra Gold. unlike most water bornes which use acrylic resins, this one has an emulsified oil resin. it looks amber in the can, not white. And it when dry looks more like traditional oil poly/varnish.

 

[ParagonVA]

I've always used Stays Clear, but it sounds like the Z-MAX might be the way to go being oil-modified.

I just realized how old this post was...MAK- did you end up using the Z-MAX?

 

[MAK-Deco]

yes Ultra max is what we used and I don't think I would ever use another water poly again. I think I posted a pic of the doors we did with in another thread.

it really was good stuff...

 

[painttofish]

Where do you find Zar Ultramax or do you special order it?