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I was just wondering who and where are you from if you can still get oil based paint. Here in Cali you can not buy oil base product.
Who Is still useing oil base paints
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I'm in MA and only use oil these days for interior trim. I use oil-based primer for exterior trim (if wood). The exterior oils seem to mildew up rather quickly now- especially on the coast. The BM crown gold label was always my favorite paint- the last time I used it was 2 years ago to paint a boathouse right on a salt water river. Was just down there the other night- it still looks good. So did the small striper I wanted to keep and eat for dinner. I hope I catch him again.
Our oil sales have declined slightly.......but BM Satin Impervo sells well but so does the Waterbourne version as well. I must admit though for you guys that use the oil product the smell is just unrulely. Stick with BM H20 Satin Impervo, Improve Regal 333, Muralo Semi, and I'm sure there are other great products out there. We just got in the Aura Semi Gloss so no word on that yet but we have had painters like the Satin for the trim. For exteriors we sell more of the acrylics than anything else........
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Ditto. I only use oil for specific purposes, mainly for priming when it is needed, or sealing stains. I hate using it and wish they would come up with something waterborne to replace the need.
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I've always thought oil base primer was the best for moisture control and keeping the grain from raising. Most of your paint vendors have or are working on a substitute . I know SW has because here in Cali you won't see any oil on the shelf. Ask you local SW maybe they will bring these product in they even have an waterborne industrial coating.
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If anybody knows of a waterborne primer that will defeat water stains?
I haven't seen found any yet.
I haven't seen found any yet.
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We still use oil for: decks, translucent siding, primer, log homes, interior trim, interior clear finishes etc.
We still use oil for: decks, translucent siding, primer, log homes, interior trim, interior clear finishes etc.
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Thats about it for me too except the log homes can't say I ever did one of those.
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They are getting harder to find on the MS Gulf Coast. My paint rep says most will not be available around the first of 2009.
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+1 from me. It's very rare I'll use it for a finish coat, and is usually because of a designer insisting on it.
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Poppycock.I can get oil based ennamels all day long here in San Diego,SoCal.
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I still use it regularly. I'm doing chair rail in a dentist office (the kind that chairs actually rub up against) no latex will hold, so I'm going oil. Exterior primer on wood is usually oil, and as much deck stain as possible - oil as well.
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I prefer oil base for interior trim & cabinets, it is available here in NC.
It cost more but it works and looks best in my opinion.
Also use oil primer on new wood.
Am I mistaken or did I once read that quarts of oil were available where gallons were not? Or did I dream that up? Must be the oil paint fumes getting to me.:blink:
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It cost more but it works and looks best in my opinion.
Also use oil primer on new wood.
Am I mistaken or did I once read that quarts of oil were available where gallons were not? Or did I dream that up? Must be the oil paint fumes getting to me.:blink:
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Oils are on there way out for sure. 2010 will be the year that VOC's will really affect your daily application, even for latex. Look @ your suppliers brush selections. I bet 85% of the brushes are designed for latex. The natural bristles are harder to find on the peg. We manufacture a product called DuraPoxy and it is a latex product that is unequaled in my opinion.
Some of you may laugh, but I have customers that use it and have "sworn" the same one you have...... Oil is the best for trim/cabinets....... and they have used DuraPoxy and now won't go back. We make products that perform wet and dry. Both are important.
Some of you may laugh, but I have customers that use it and have "sworn" the same one you have...... Oil is the best for trim/cabinets....... and they have used DuraPoxy and now won't go back. We make products that perform wet and dry. Both are important.
Same for me. The majority of my work is upper tier repaints and oil is the preferred medium. For some reason the fumessmell are not noticeable to me; maybe I have singed too many nose hairs.
I don't like the clean up but I sure like the way it paints and looks. I am slowly starting to use some waterbased paints and like the BM Impervo, pretty nice. I wanting to try the Kelly Moore Dura-Poxy; anyone have any eperience with this?
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i refuse to paint trim with oils anymore,,,,,they dont perform and they are bad for my health.
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we only use oil for concrete porches/patios, or maybe the front of a door or threshold. we usually go duron signature over oil
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There's a few things. One Cali has some of the strictest VOC laws around. I'm in NH and we're pretty close. After the VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) laws got passed companies had to reformulate or retire products. This isn't an issue on many states. We've dealt with it a lot here because the EPA has quite a bit of swing. We've had two results. #1 Inferior reformulated products, like Cabot's Australian Timber Oil, we had a number of customers who had drying issues (Not enough Naptha). #2 Lots of products are either gone or relabeled as industrial. Bummer. Oil is the way to go a lot of the time. Especially with bare wood. I've dealt with tons of VOC and oil-based questions its something we deal with every day, let me know if you have some questions.
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