If you want exciting, go with a high-gloss.

 

Last year I was painting for a couple on a new construction job and the wife decided to help out and move things along by painting some of the rooms herself. She used a gallon off the mistint shelf. Advance high gloss in a very exciting pink over brand new drywall that was primed but the primer hadn't been sanded or dusted yet. It looked absolutely awful. Shortly after that she decided to keep helping by prepainting the trim. Shortly after that I walked off the job.

 

Report post to admins...HO most likely

 

If you want exciting, go with a high-gloss.

Not sure if the customer can handle that much excitement

 

Matt or eggshell is the norm on walls. Are you a Painting Contractor?

 

Flat is not for walls. Period. If they call it a flat and its for walls then it's just another name for matte. Haven't seen any paint that they call a flat be durable enough for walls.

Even sciff x matte is more like a eggshell.

 

Thank you for your inputs. I will tell my customers to use Eggshell.

 

If there's no kids you can sometimes use flat for the walls.

 

regal flat is just fine for walls, its what we had growing up regal flat white dove even in the bathrooms

 

I know you're a benjamin moore fanboy but if you think regal flat is an actual flat then I suggest you use other paint stores flats. Regal flat has more sheen than a matte in other paints.

 

Who the hell cares what a your fantasy paint company calls "matte" regal flat is pretty damn flat 1-3 sheen. If you don't think thats flat you need to get your eyeballs checked out

 

I will say, that Promar 400 is definitely very flat.

 

According to their data sheets: Regal is 1-4 and Promar 400 is 0-5....so....

Additionally, I actually think Regal leaves a fairly nice finish on walls. I've done lots of places with zero complaints.

 

Who cares if its not a DEAD flat, its still pretty flat. It says flat on the label. I would avoid it on a well lit ceiling.

BTW, 99% of new construction use flat on everything but trim and doors. A lot of designers are speccing flat for walls these days too.

 

Arguing over flat paint, this is what keeps me coming back after all these years........

 

i dont think eggshell looks that good on walls personally and i dont find myself needing to scrub walls so flat it is for me.


if i put anyone in the same room with different flats same color from different companies no one is noticing a sheen difference, lets be real

 

If I use a flat on walls I go with Emerald, not usually a big fan of the Emerald line but the flat is durable and decently washable compared to lower paint grades. Off note with the Emerald Urethane, I've had issues spraying on trim with micro bubbles and needing 3 coats over spackle spots if not primed but it bonds like a mother *#$%@&.

 

Just in case anyone was wondering. Not all flats are created equal. All situational.

 

Flat for ceilings. Eggshell for walls unless the drywall finish is rough or poor job, then go with a bit less sheen. Or better yet, have a good mud guy apply a smooth skim coat then eggshell it.

 

Super Paint by SW is a true flat, i tend to use Duration flat as s standard. It does have an angular sheen.

 

Super Paint is a 0-5 sheen so with 1 coat in a light color, it will be a flatter finish. With 2 coats the sheen will be slighter higher. As you go to darker colors it will sheen up even more. Regal Flat is a 1-4 sheen.

 

Ultimately it's up to what the customer themselves want. I guess you can sell sheens to a certain degree, but I've put up say, satin on walls where I've wanted a matte. Oh well. Sometimes the worst thing to do is try to talk a customer out of a sheen they want, but sometimes it's the best thing, too. Hard on that front.

One thing I think to consider is with sheen and perception of color, besides the issue of often a deep base ending up a higher sheen than advertised due to more pigment, a room in the same color can look very different in flat, eggshell, or satin or semi-gloss, and be essentially a different color due to the way light bounces around the room. I would say in some situations if you wanted to go flat or matte, you might be better going 1-2 shades lighter in color compared to the same color in satin, because the color's perception is going to be different just from the change in sheen, with a darker color in a higher sheen presenting basically as a brighter color due to light reflectivity.

Personally, to me, the finest looking paint around for a wall is Regal Matte. I love the BM matte finish. It seems to work and look good everywhere and on any surface.

 

There seems to be a bit of a discrepancy here between a high quality 100% acrylic "washable" Matte wall paint vs. a cheap Flat ceiling Paint. They are miles apart..

 

I hope you guys wrap this thread up soon. I can’t stand the drama, suspense, and the potential for scandal that is constantly hovering over this topic.😬😗😉

 

Walking was a wise move. Try to stay as far away from train wrecks as possible.

 

Don't dryroll and keep paint on roller and it looks good

 

That doesn't even make sense dude.

 

Just a little update. We used Regal Select EggShell and have them mixed in SW Shoji White. It turned out beautiful, very happy customers!. I hav always used SW Cashmere or Promar 200 due to large discount I got from them but now maybe using BM more for high end jobs. It tends to dry a little faster than SW paint but something to get used to.

Does Regal Select EggShell touch up well? How does Regal Select look in Matte and touch up capability? Any insight is greatly appreciated for my next job (hopefull soon.) May even paint my sister's home now with it... What do you recommend for Trim/Doors, and cabinets besides Regal Semi Gloss that we just used?

 

You used Regal on Cabinets? 🤦‍♀️

 

Proclassic on cabinets. Regal semi gloss on trims and doors

 

Haven't been a fan of semi gloss for some time. Seems that gloss rates have gone up in the last ten years or so. I'm strictly a satin guy now. Trim, doors, cabinets, all satin. Ben Moore Advance is my go to for all three.