[daArch]

Thank you GAP for being so open to our intelligent comments and well thought responses to your novel idea.

It is so heartwarming to see a newbie come on this forum, ask opinions about adulterating products, and listen, with such panache, to the cautions and opinions from perhaps a thousand years of cumulative experience.

BTW, when you write your PhD thesis on the reformulation of acrylics, silicones, and bonding agents would you please mention our names?

thanks much.

Your the best :thumbup:

 

[GAPainter]

When you come here with some whacked out off the wall . You are going to take a beating like you never had. Now take your beating like a man.

To VermontPainter: ^^^^Is this a stare?

To timhag: Your input on this topic was outstanding. Well thought out and informative. But I Im sorry my idea seems "whacked out and off the wall" to you. Obvioulsy its not for you. Also, I'm not going to be taking any beatings like a man. I only take them after midnight when I'm blacked out somewhere in the tangible world.

 

[daArch]

T Also, I'm not going to be taking any beatings like a man. I only take them after midnight when I'm blacked out somewhere in the tangible world.

This begs the question - is this a common occurance?

 

[vermontpainter]

To VermontPainter: ^^^^Is this a stare?

To timhag: Your input on this topic was outstanding. Well thought out and informative. But I Im sorry my idea seems "whacked out and off the wall" to you. Obvioulsy its not for you. Also, I'm not going to be taking any beatings like a man. I only take them after midnight when I'm blacked out somewhere in the tangible world.

No, that is Timhag and he is having trouble understanding why you would ask for opinions on the downsides of mixing caulking with primer, and then get so defensive. People dont like your idea. Who cares.

I personally believe that a 2" angle sash brush is all I need to make a living. I am in about a 1% minority on that one. To each his own.

 

[GAPainter]

Thank you GAP for being so open to our intelligent comments and well thought responses to your novel idea.

It is so heartwarming to see a newbie come on this forum, ask opinions about adulterating products, and listen, with such panache, to the cautions and opinions from perhaps a thousand years of cumulative experience.

BTW, when you write your PhD thesis on the reformulation of acrylics, silicones, and bonding agents would you please mention our names?

thanks much.

Your the best :thumbup:

Sorry if I seemed like a newbie with my OP. But I was blown away by the sharp criticism my question and idea received. Of those thousands of years experience from this community you would surely think someone has tried this before, on purpose or accident, that replied to my OP. Then giving an answer from experience.

 

[timhag]

No, that is Timhag and he is having trouble understanding why you would ask for opinions on the downsides of mixing caulking with primer, and then get so defensive. People dont like your idea. Who cares.

I personally believe that a 2" angle sash brush is all I need to make a living. I am in about a 1% minority on that one. To each his own.

I have trouble understanding why some who claims to have experience would do something like this. :blink: It's beyond me.

 

[JNLP]

Instead of flaming and calling it a "stupid friggin' idea" elaborate some on why you think it's a "stupid friggin' idea". Or is this all you have? If that's the case you're not helping this community.

Here's why I do...

Ever been on a job that was having abnormal paint failier? Usually the paint reps are called in, they take samples, and come up with some reason of why it's not the paints fault. Would it be your special formulas fault? Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't matter.

When they find out that the primer being used was altered. Instantly the finger is pointed towards you as it's not going by the specifications for the products. They tell you how much water you can add to be safe. Where the hell it say how much caulk you can add? lol

Not trying to put you down, but the idea in general is pretty stupid when you're a professional of 16 years, and could easily buy a proper primer that does the same thing, but covers your ass at the same time. :thumbsup:

 

[GAPainter]

I have trouble understanding why some who claims to have experience would do something like this. :blink: It's beyond me.

Quit trying to understand it. Like I said before, it's not for you.

 

[vermontpainter]

I have trouble understanding why some who claims to have experience would do something like this. :blink: It's beyond me.

I have just always done my best work with a 2" brush. :whistling2:

 

[daArch]

Sorry if I seemed like a newbie with my OP. But I was blown away by the sharp criticism my question and idea received. Of those thousands of years experience from this community you would surely think someone has tried this before, on purpose or accident, that replied to my OP. Then giving an answer from experience.

Well, as verm says, a lot of it has to do with you asking a question about mixing caulk with paint and when receiving less than stellar opinions, you get a tad defensive. If you ask a question, don't be expecting global support. this ain't the old USSR, we are allowed to disagree.

No talking about accidents, and lessons learned. I once mixed oil and latex. It went on a little "funny" but held up for at least three years. Did I take that as inspiration? Or thank my lucky stars fate shone on me kindly that day ?

 

[johnpaint]

Well, as verm says, a lot of it has to do with you asking a question about mixing caulk with paint and when receiving less than stellar opinions, you get a tad defensive. If you ask a question, don't be expecting global support. this ain't the old USSR, we are allowed to disagree.

No talking about accidents, and lessons learned. I once mixed oil and latex. It went on a little "funny" but held up for at least three years. Did I take that as inspiration? Or thank my lucky stars fate shone on me kindly that day ?

Bill, how long do you cook that oil and latex before you use it?

 

[vermontpainter]

Archibald Emulsion Coatings, Inc.

www.stickystuff.com

 

[GAPainter]

Here's why I do...

Every been on a job that was having abnormal paint failier? Usually the paint reps are called in, they take samples, and come up with some reason of why it's not the paints fault. Would it be your special formulas fault? Maybe, maybe not. Doesn't matter.

When they find out that the primer being used was altered. Instantly the finger is pointed towards you as it's not going by the specifications for the products. They tell you how much water you can add to be safe. Where the hell it say how much caulk you can add? lol

Not trying to put you down, but the idea in general is pretty stupid when you're a professional of 16 years, and could easily buy a proper primer that does the same thing, but covers your ass at the same time. :thumbsup:

No see this is a great post!!

JNLP, I think I see where the confusion is coming from now. I am a re-paint specialist. Sometimes I do light commercial work and new construction. Very seldom though. I like the re-paint market.

So, this product I mix up is for homes that are in bad shape. Layers of paint flaking and chipping everywhere on the exterior. After cleaning, scraping, sanding and rinsing I give the surface a coat of SealKrete, a waterproofing product, applied with a pump sprayer. Next day is when my primer/caulk mix is applied. Not only does it help ensure adhesion to the substrate and for the finish coat it helps level out the rough surfaces. Most store bought primers are thin and runny. I like for my brush to stand up on it's own in my primer bucket.

Lately I have seen some "High-build Primers" available. Tried em' and they work ok.

 

[daArch]

Bill, how long do you cook that oil and latex before you use it?

the real question was how cooked was I to make that mistake - answer: VERY !

Archibald Emulsion Coatings, Inc.

www.stickystuff.com

You've left me speechless - you win :thumbup: BTW, nice article in The INSTALLER, especially the plug. Check's in the mail

 

[NEPS.US]

What type of substrate you working with Mr. Mad Scientist?

 

[NEPS.US]

How many times are you going to edit your posts. Especially the original post for the topic.

hmmmm ....read a few responses ...figure you sound foolish and go back to edit......:thumbsup:

 

[NEPS.US]

When you give your quote and present it to the HO do you write down the steps in your superprimer or do you not tell them at all. Do you usually lie to your customers?

Do you normally mess with the formulas of your products? Do you have any experience with mixing chemicals? Do you think that your little paint company in GA has more information and experience than a major billion dollar paint manufacturer? Do you think they could add caulking to paint but want to increase sales so they break it out into two different products?

Where are all of our paint manufacturers and scientists tonight?

 

[daArch]

How many times are you going to edit your posts. Especially the original post for the topic.

hmmmm ....read a few responses ...figure you sound foolish and go back to edit......:thumbsup:

that's why it's always best to quote that to which you are responding. Leaves the original intact, like this:

Hello, Im currently working on the exterior of an old home. Siding and trim are in bad shape. So after preping I decided to mix some caulk and primer together for a nice thick primer. I mix 1 tube per gallon. Has anyone tried this before and if so do you think there are any benefits or downsides from doing this?

instead of this:

I mix caulk and primer together. It creates SuperPrimer. Patent Pending.

Edit 1- Changed original topic.

 

[Msargent]

add a little durabond 45 that will thicken it up abit .

 

[NEPS.US]

Nice Arch

The only conclusion I can come to is that this guy is buying $9 per gallon latex primer at HD and figures if he adds a $1.29 tube of caulking he will be making a super primer and a fraction of the cost.