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The fees charged pay for the program, so no money is taken from the CA taxpayers. Those who use pay, its a fair program. I don't sweat it, just goes into my cost per gallon. It's the same as sales tax. I remember when I was behind the counter and some contractors would bitch about the sales tax, like they forgot how much it is? If you don't factor it in, you lose 10% of all your material budget, so add it in to each gallon cost.

The majority of the paint that is turned in for recycling is going to be reused. The program is brand new, but you will see recycled paint for sale in most paint stores soon, you can bet on that. You will see more government jobs using recycled paint as a larger percentage of the total job. Recycled paint is really good stuff and the range of color is growing.
 
Tax tax tax. Im in CT and we have the same program. Add it into the estimates and move on.

Some customers appreciate the "Eco friendliness". The people pinching pennies on already high material costs aren't profitable clients in the first place.

You can complain, as I have, but no one here will listen or have the power to do anything about it.

I charge a disposable fee now because of it.
If you can't beat em join em.
 
I probably take in an average of about 3-5 gallons a month. Usually stuff a customer has from an old job that I'll just drop off on my way to get materials for the new work. Anything left over from a job I'm doing usually gets left with the customer.

We have two designated drop off sites in our town of 60k. Out of curiosity I called the manager of the SW store (one of the two sites) and asked what they see coming in. He said he would conservatively estimate it to be around 150 gallons per month - with obviously more in the summer and less in the winter months.

Here is a link to Paint Care's site. They are the company that runs the recycling programs in Oregon, Connecticut, and California:

http://www.paintcare.org/
 
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MikeCalifornia said:
The fees charged pay for the program, so no money is taken from the CA taxpayers. Those who use pay, its a fair program. I don't sweat it, just goes into my cost per gallon. It's the same as sales tax. I remember when I was behind the counter and some contractors would bitch about the sales tax, like they forgot how much it is? If you don't factor it in, you lose 10% of all your material budget, so add it in to each gallon cost. The majority of the paint that is turned in for recycling is going to be reused. The program is brand new, but you will see recycled paint for sale in most paint stores soon, you can bet on that. You will see more government jobs using recycled paint as a larger percentage of the total job. Recycled paint is really good stuff and the range of color is growing.
I would love to see that audit, I've been paying into this program for over a year and they haven't got one drop of recycled paint from me.

Why should we absorb the cost or have to pass it on to our customers, the fee should be paid when you take your leftover paint to be recycled not at the POS, they are just guessing that you're going to recycle some of it, it's ridiculous, you can't charge people for a service that they may or may not use.
The recycle drop off centers are at most paint stores, if you drop off 20 gls. of used paint then you should pay the $15. there.
 
I would have a lot more shelf room in my garage if I could easily get rid of leftover paint. I try to leave it with the HO too, but somehow a little here and a little there adds up over time. I'm looking forward to WA getting the program. Many HO's ask how to get rid of old paint. I think it's a good thing. The haz waste site stopped taking latex paint, they still take oil but you have to make it look like you're a oh and take in a little at a time, otherwise you go into a whole 'nuther category.
 
It's not that new - http://www.painttalk.com/f2/we-so-lucky-california-not-20347/

Almost a year now, most paint stores only will except a few gallons some don't at all. Not any different then the pyramid scam they call Social Security

Pat
Most independent dealer won't accept the paint, because they are not set up for it. Only manufactures have to accept it. But independents stores still have to charge the fee, even home depot. Home depot is just a dealer so they don't have to accept the paint. Sw Has selected stores and ALL vista paint stores accept the paint. Vista sees it as a opportunity to get new faces through their doors.
 
Up here many of the SW stores are taking the same approach. They view it as good PR.
 
A recent customer called the town and several paint stores to find out how to properly dispose of her left over paint. She was told to leave the lids off and throw it in the trash when it's dry. We've had paintcare in CT since July.
 
I barely notice the extra cost here. .60 cents a gallon is better than the 20$ minimum cost at my local recycle depot for a few partial paint cans.

The fee is probably on of the most useful fees I pay. If .60 cents a gallon is really going to hurt your bottom like. Then you need you re look your pricing strategies.
 
I've actually looked into doing something like this to be a market leader with a new service.
Consumer drops off unused latex paint, we charge a $1 fee per gallon.
We take like colors, strain/mix into a 5g bucket and resell "Round's Value Paint" at a nominal cost.
Ask insurance company who then says...NO, you're not covered.
 
I would get a little less heated about taxes if they were actually still used to properly fund the principal functions of the the government.

But they are not

They are use to socially engineer some utopianist idea of the week. and when peoples habits change,tax revenue begins to reduce, then OMG we don't have enough money!? people must not be paying "their fair share!"

Don't worry I'm sure taxing only half the country more again will work for sure this time.........:no:
 
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Painter-Aaron said:
I barely notice the extra cost here. .60 cents a gallon is better than the 20$ minimum cost at my local recycle depot for a few partial paint cans. The fee is probably on of the most useful fees I pay. If .60 cents a gallon is really going to hurt your bottom like. Then you need you re look your pricing strategies.
It's not the pain, it's more the principle, take a little here, take a little there, sometimes I feel like we're dying the death of a thousand cuts.
 
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