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Sherwin Williams Emerald flat

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#1 ·
Anyone used the SW emerald flat. If so what were your thoughts?
 
#5 · (Edited)
It wasn't flat but I used satin the first time this week. It was for a friend they had already bought the paint. If they hadn't, it would of been BM. Anyway it was a typical living room 28x22. I cut in one wall and was liking how it went on, came back to roll and it was picking up the cut which was half dry I guess. The overlap between cut and roll never layed back down. Moving on around the room I start breaking the cut at every door frame and then rolling and moving on again. This continued the whole room no matter how fast I moved. And I was laying on a good wet coat, which it did quite well witg. I mean, it takes 5 mins. to cut a 30 ft wall. Never had this happen with any paint before. Now I have to sand the cut area everywhere. Told them to take it back and get their money back. I'll be getting Regal satin to finish. Never using Emerald again, miserable paint. Maybe you have to let the cut dry first. Never had to do that with Aura, regal, pm200, ultra spec, cashmere or anything though.

And why don't some friends call when I've told them, if you need paint let me know!
 
#6 ·
All I can do is agree on this one. My hillbilly testing tells me there is absolutely nothing to this product that justifies it even existing, let alone the $70 retail price. That's absolutely insane for this paint!

I wonder if I should trademark "the hillbilly paint lab."
 
#7 ·
Emerald is one of my favorite wall paints. Haven't tried the flat, but I've had really good success with the matte and the satin. It does smell kinda bad during application, but no big deal. Don't use it very often, but I enjoy it when I do.

Interesting to see the previous comment comparing it to Aura. Are some of you really keeping a wet edge with Aura? I don't even try unless it's a really small wall like in a bathroom or kitchen. The open time is just too short. My understanding is that keeping a wet edge isn't recommended with Aura, or Ultra spec. It certainly doesn't seem necessary, does fine letting the cut in dry.

Doesn't seem necessary with Emerald either, but the increased open time (compared to Aura) allows it more easily.

We're on a job using it right now. The HO has a close relative that works at SW and they insisted. I painted a bedroom the other day with a medium-dark grey. I kept a wet edge wall to wall just because I could, and it was a change up from using Aura like we usually do. Great hide, and I really like the finish

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#8 · (Edited)
I've never had Aura pick up off the wall like this when painting in the same manner. Since I don't usually work solo, wet edge is what happens 90% of the time. This has never been an issue for me with Aura. I have never read nor heard that you are supposed to let it dry first. Even if it does it still looks good.

Aura has always performed well wet or dry edge. I don't want paint to be finicky and across all the BM and Coronado lines I've had success, that's why I stick with them- Performance and Predictability!

I'd give Emerald a try again if you say letting it dry is the trick. But I didn't like how it smelled either.

Also, the walls were primed.
 
#16 ·
Im not sure what roller sleeve you are using but try using the correct roller cover for this paint. If you're buying at sw you might as well get the specified roller cover. Try the contractors series cover..blue wrapping it will make a world of difference. Do NOT use the softwoven or drylon materials they will pull the material back off the wall.
 
#9 ·
Think I know what you mean. Paints have a time window during drying when they will pull like your describing. Aura's window is very short because it dries so fast. Almost like it's either wet, or it's not. With very little in between.

I haven't experienced pulling with Emerald, but I have seen it with other paints.
 
#10 ·
stelzerpaintinginc. said:
Emerald is one of the few paints that really disagrees with me. Last time I used it was more than a year ago, and I still have a headache from it.
I hear you! I occasionally suffer from migraines and the smell from emerald is definitely one that triggers an episode. I had a 2 bedroom job a few months ago that the HO already purchased the paint. Sure enough every day I would get crushed with a migraine. I tried opening windows and using multiple fans but it still got to me. I cannot ever use it again for interior painting. It's no Aura but I did get a great finish with it.
 
#13 ·
I posted awhile back about Cashmere smelling like diesel fuel it was just awful. Others posted they never had a problem with Cashmere odor wise. We just used it again as customer wanted it and this time no odor . We also used Emerald satin and no odor but the drying reminded me of the old Everclean crap. Now Emearld exterior I've had very good luck with especially deep colors.
 
#15 ·
This is one of those funny threads where everyone has a different answer. Just ran a gallon of flat the other day. Went on great flowed nice and the finish was so hard i couldnt even chip it after an hour. It was good. For 65 a gallon prolly not.
I feel like theres middle of the road paints that will do the same thing.
I feel.like these really expensive paints are great for vivid colors, or getting durability out of really deep base stuff.
 
#20 ·
Heh, Aura. Everyone does it a bit different. To anyone who's not used it before, I tell them to not even try to keep a wet edge. Reps say it because it's a good, idiot-proof way to do it. You can keep a wet edge if you're quick and smart. It's not necessary in any way, but I know plenty who do it that way. I suppose you can probably move a bit quicker doing it that way, but with how quick Aura dries it's not much of a hold-up either way.
 
#22 ·
You run the risk of lifting the cut if you roll into a partially dried paint film, that's probably why BM recommends rolling into a completely dried cut.
 
#29 ·
I used emerald satin today and I have the biggest migrant from smelling among a all day.
Agreed. Most sherwin stuff and paint in general smells. I couldn't stand duration interior.

I've used almost all the paint they make (sherwin) for interior painting. And honestly my go to is ecoselect and super paint. Duracraft or a100 for exterior. Done.

When eco is spray applied right...it's top notch and you can't smell it after just an hour. Awesomeness.