[slickshift]

Specifically Zinnser primers, Minwax polyurethanes/stains? As far as you know, are they despec'd versions of the real thing?

As far as I know, the Zinsser and Minwax products are not de-spec'd

You do have to be careful and thorough when comparing prices though
For example, the spray BIN at HD used to come in the Paint Store sized can, but was clearly marked, in the usual area at the bottom, that it actually contained less product
So a quick look at the cans (but not the actual volume labeling at the bottom) would lead one to believe HD was a lot less money on the spray BIN
In fact, it was only slightly less per oz.
(They may still do this, but I haven't checked in a while so I'll say "used to")

 

[GMack]

the spray BIN at HD used to come in the Paint Store sized can, but was clearly marked, in the usual area at the bottom, that it actually contained less product

Thanks . . . I haven't noticed that so I'll look for it next time I'm in there. Good to hear about zinnser and minwax.

 

[Epik Painting]

Scott, I will not be joining that site!

As for ICI's Fresh Aire Choice, the good news is that it is bringing awareness to toxicity in the marketplace and that colorants add to the VOC and carcinogenic values. "A" for effort, just curious why they dont want their name on the can? you would think it would give assurance to people that they are supported by one of the largest manufacturers?

HMMMM, Wonder why Mythic is not American Pride?????

 

[Joewho]

Scott, I will not be joining that site!

As for ICI's Fresh Aire Choice, the good news is that it is bringing awareness to toxicity in the marketplace and that colorants add to the VOC and carcinogenic values. "A" for effort, just curious why they dont want their name on the can? you would think it would give assurance to people that they are supported by one of the largest manufacturers?

Because it's De-Spec'd?

 

[MAK-Deco]

I was comp'd some of C2 new LoVo paint and will use it this week and give my opinion on it. I like free stuff as long as it works for me and doesn't make more work for me

 

[KeirK]

Because it's De-Spec'd?

No, its the brand developed for HD, just not sure why they chose not to use their giant well respected name? Possibly indicts their current products but not sure about the logic. Our AP and Mythic are both labeled as made by SDP (our corporate name) but we were a small fish until Mythic actually got started, so there was no benefit to use the AP name as it is only really known in the green world.

 

[KeirK]

I was comp'd some of C2 new LoVo paint and will use it this week and give my opinion on it. I like free stuff as long as it works for me and doesn't make more work for me

I have something for everyone coming soon....keep your eyes on PT.

 

[alpinecrick]

Although I usually hesitate to comment on something I haven't actually used, I have used enough paint products from HD, and more importantly fixed enough disasters caused by HD paint products, to never, ever, want to even hear the words "paint", "stain", or "primer", and "Home Depot" or "Behr" ever again

HD has absolutely no desire to provide quality product to professionals whatsoever
Its not a big secret or anything...it's in their business plan
They want to provide "mediocre" product to clueless DIYers
I put mediocre in quotes because their definition of mediocre is most quality painter's definition of piss poor

HD could come give me a few fivers of any new product for free and I wouldn't touch it with ProWallGuy's roller on the end of a Wooster 8'-16' Posi-Lock extension pole, fully extended of course

Soo....what do you think of the Glidden interior latexes?......


Casey

 

[Faron79]

Up in Fargo...

We'll soon be getting our C2-Lovo paint in!

Many customers asking about it.
Overall, the "existing" line has very low ODOR. Many favorable comments regarding that...especially the primers.

The new Lovo will come in @ ~ 25-50 g/l for VOC's. Obviously, VERY low VOC. Low enough to technically be called "No VOC", but they didn't want to be @ Zero.

Back to primers...
* The "C2-One" primer was designed to dethrone 1-2-3 as the great all-around Int/Ext Latex primer/stainblocker.
* 123's VOC is 100g/l.
* C2's is 200g/l. Twice as high obviously.
* BUT...Myself & many other customers/painters can't stand the smell of the 123. I've had people tell me directly..."Screw the 123...give me the C2 primer!"
* We still carry both however!

Sooooo...it'll be interesting how the "Odor vs. VOC" factor plays out...!

Faron

 

[KeirK]

Faron,
Just an FYI, 25-50 g/l is not technically No VOC.
The government allows 5 g/l to be considered no VOC. To put it in perspective 50 g/l is the equivalent of 150 g/gallon. That is about 30 Nickels in weight.
Additionally although VOC's contribute to odor, the problem is the health issues caused by VOC's, so if you can't smell it, that doesn't mean that it isn't causing damage.
Still a step in the right direction, but wanted to clarify.
Our products of course are No VOC not the government standard, truly Zero.
Thanks,
Keir

 

[slickshift]

Soo....what do you think of the Glidden interior latexes?......

Technically, I would rate them slightly above Behr
But of course, that's not difficult, as I'd also rate Diaper Pudding above Behr

So, no...I don't use them


..the Gliddens that is


Diaper Pudding has it's uses

 

[Paul_R]

Where is the Wolverine guy? Isn't he the Scientist who has all the technological expertise? Oh, I forgot the question. Is it, does a paint company make various products with varying quality under various names to be sold in various stores? Sorry I have a simple mind, where are you Wolverine? Happy painting, Paul.

 

[Faron79]

Yep, I slightly erred in my sentence!

The new Lovo will be comfortably under the 50g/l threshold; therefore "Low VOC". Everyone wins there!

True...true...VOC's and "perceived Odor" are only VERY loosely related. But, during my next priming project, I'm not usin' 123...peeeww:no: !
Going "truly Zero..."??? Sometime in the future...but getting "under 50" was a good goal. C2's switch to different colorants is coming too...next year.

(I can't wait... ...purging/cleaning our $20,000 C2 COROB tinter will take an entire DAY!!! Jeez that's gonna SUCK!!!)

Faron

 

[petschpainting]

I am new to the forum, just spying and reading... I have been afraid to try anything low VOC, I like the smell. Smells like money.

Ultra-Hide seems to be a good workhorse for me, but I am considering trying other stuff. I seem to be flooded with bold color jobs lately and I am thinking SW might have something better. Any suggestions are welcome. As for buying at home depot, I shop at the paint store for service above everything else.

Anyways thanks for all the great topics, you have saved my as% several times. I just never have the time to post.