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Titan 440 manifold filter leaking seal.

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#1 ·
I have a 440 that is leaking from the manifold filter housing and when I took it apart I found a gasket or seal that was crushed, this is my 2nd 440 and the first one does not leak and never had this seal a thin round plastic gasket.

I am doing lacquer and I used my other one for spraying stain but it is too weak to spray lacquer (needs repacked) and with the extended weekend I need to keep going. Does anyone know the part so I can order for later and a possible fix for this leak. I tried the hardware store and tried some rubber O rings and no luck as well as Teflon tape.

I am thinking on switching parts on the machines to keep moving but would like to avoid that but may try spraying lacquer through it tomorrow since it is thicker then stain, might work.

Any ideas?
Thanks
 
#9 ·
Those gaskets often wear prematurely due to over-wrenching the manifold housing back on. Approx 1/4 turn from a wrench after hand-tightening will seal it. Much more than that and you'll start grinding into the washer/gasket, (depending upon model).

Might want to pickup a few of those filter seals at once, since no other washer, gasket, etc., can be used in lieu of the clear filter seals. The white neoprene washers, you can get by the pack at most SW paint stores.
 
#15 · (Edited)
This thread really helped me a lot, and calmed my frustration and anger. Had same issue. Brand new. Ran two gallons through my Titan 440 Impact to paint my friends basement ceiling two months ago. Cleaned it out. Today I'm doing a hotel renovation and I get it ready to spray ceilings and its leaking out the filter housing. Clean it, gasket is mangled. Unhappy.
Thanks for the part numbers!!
P.S. Whenever checking the filter, before screwing back on make sure the gasket ring is in its proper place.
 
#17 ·
Yea I looked a lot and could not really find much even after finding that crushed gasket but got mine ordered in time and in the mean time I used a Graco prox9 that handled the srain and lacquer just fine but knew to do the walls and ceilings it would not come close to keeping up.

Thanks SprayRepairGuy I have used Bedford a few times and have got China EBay products and think now I have a good idea now when a precieved bargain will end up costing more.
 
#5 ·
I got the new seal 704-297 and can not figure out how to install it. It slips over the very end of the filter housing where there is a circle groove just before the thread starts but will not get threaded. I also tried to put it in to the bottom where the housing would seat to the machine and it appeared to be a bigger diameter and I have looked for pictures or videos and found nothing.

I did not mess with it too much as it should either work or not, I did not know there was a difference between Impact and I series I always thought they were the same and the covers on both of my machines say Impact but perhaps I am forgetting or missing something and I will look tomorrow at the stamped numbers but might explain why the repack on the other machine failed.
 
#14 ·
Yea seriously I have had less problems with a Graco unit from the 80's then both 440's I have but perhaps it is aftermarket products and user error as well but comparing years with no problems compared to months in some cases and I am one who will spend the extra time at the end of the day to take care of my tools no matter how tired I am or late it is.

Heck I was using a Graco X9 Home Depot rig for the stain and lacquer and it worked, I also have a spraytech that needs some work as well.
 
#16 ·
Yea seriously I have had less problems with a Graco unit from the 80's then both 440's I have but perhaps it is aftermarket products and user error as well but comparing years with no problems
There's nothing wrong with aftermarket repair parts, as long as they come from Bedford. Bedford products are MADE IN THE USA, and are not cheap imports from China like most of the other recent startups. Bedford has been manufacturing spray equipment parts for 50 years now. I've been using Bedford repair parts in my spray shops for almost 20 years, and rarely have any problems, certainly less than with OEM parts, and their service is top rate. When I was at Graco, other engineers would comment on the quality of the Bedford engineering and manufacturing.
 
#18 ·
As you might suspect, I have a close relationship with Bedford. I've used their products I my repair shops for a long time, and my customers love the price and quality. I deal with Bedford on a weekly basis and they have never let me down. As an old timer American worker I am proud to be able to buy parts from an American company that still manufactures parts Made in the USA.

At the time that I left Graco for other endeavors, I suspected much of the Graco manufacturing had already started being sourced in China. Looking at the labeling of OEM parts today, I suspect it has become a normal practice for Graco to import from Chinese manufacturing. Now the numerous copy-cat manufacturers in China and Korea are ripping off designs and flooding the market with cheap imitations and not even labeling them as imports.

(Stepping off soapbox)